From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the
Scriptures for li
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:00:48 -0500
I usually try to give anyone the benefit of a doubt or assume the best of
them, Christian or not, unless I have reason not to. So are you implying
that BT doesn't think Terry is a Christian? iz
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the
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Izzy,
If you believe one is not a Christian, then you are not compelled to
take
him at his word, a la 1 Cor 13, right?
Perry
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>
>Certainly.
>
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry
Locke
>Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:45 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the
>Scriptures for li
>
>Izzy,
>
> Can you be wrong in your discernment about who is a Christian and who
>is
>not, perhaps believing one who is indeed a Chrisian to not be so?
>
>Perry
>
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> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the
> >Scriptures for li
> >Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:48:09 -0500
> >
> >I don't know of any reason to believe that Terry is not a follower of
> >Christ. Some folks claim to follow Christ but their fruit shows
>otherwise,
> >in which case Jesus said to judge by the fruit, not by the talk. Some
>folks
> >on TT state they don't know what it means to be born again, some claim
to
> >be
> >followers of JSmith, etc. I choose to believe a person's statement
about
> >him/herself unless they prove themselves to be speaking
falsely--whether
> >that is intentional or not. How about you, Perry? Do you believe the
> >mormons, for instance, when they claim to be true followers of Jesus
> >Christ?
> >I don't because I know they can't follow JSmith and Jesus at the same
>time.
> >izzy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry
>Locke
> >Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:49 AM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the
> >Scriptures for li
> >
> >Izzy, how do you know who is a believer to decide if you should take
him
>at
> >his word? Some on this group say they are believers but you do not
>believe
> >that they are. If they are believers, regardless of whether you think
>they
> >are believers or not, aren't you breaking 1 Cor 13 if you do not take
>them
> >at their word?
> >
> >Perry
> >
> > >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
the
> > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> > >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:21:03 -0500
> > >
> > >I do believe that I Cor 13 exhorts us to take a Believer at his word,
> >does
> > >it not? How else would love behave? iz
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:55 AM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
the
> > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> > >
> > >David wrote concerning Terry's comment: I found nothing dishonest in
>what
> > >you wrote. ... There was definitely a problem in reading you.
> > >
> > >David, how do you presume to know this, other than in the say way the
> >rest
> > >of us might? Terry's word will have to suffice, as far as I'm
>concerned.
> > >Are
> > >you privy to something we're not?
> > >
> > >Bill
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:37 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
the
> > >Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terry wrote:
> > > > > I make a simple statement that there is not enough
> > > > > information to tell who would be the the most accurate
> > > > > interpreter of scriptures or the most mature believer
> > > > > between Bill, who I have never met, and a Russian,
> > > > > who I have never heard of. That is hardly placing one
> > > > > of you in Hell and the other outside the body of the
> > > > > Church. If that comment is less than honest, explain
> > > > > to me where I would have gotten the information needed
> > > > > to reach the same conclusion as Lance.
> > > >
> > > > I found nothing dishonest in what you wrote, Terry. I was amazed
>that
> > >your
> > > > post was interpreted the way it was. There was definitely a
problem
> >in
> > > > reading you.
> > > >
> > > > You mention something in this post that is somewhat interesting.
>You
> > > > mention both "accurate interpreter of scriptures" and "most mature
> > > > believer." Do you think these are related? Are more mature
>believers
> > >more
> > > > accurate interpreters of Scripture? My comments on this thread
> > >concerned
> > > > only the ability to understand the intent of the Holy Ghost in the
> > >Scripture
> > > > he inspired to be written. Perhaps part of the disconnect in
> > >communicating
> > > > on this is that some connect the idea of "accuracy interpreter of
> > > > scriptures" and "maturity of believers" in a more definite way.
>That
> > >was
> > > > perhaps part of Lance's perspective, that one cannot accurately
> > >interpret
> > > > Scripture without having time for maturity, regardless of the
> > >involvement
> > >of
> > > > the Holy Spirit.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think? Is the maturity of the believer something
> >important
> > >in
> > > > regards to the ability to understand the intended meaning of
> >Scripture?
> > >Is
> > > > maturity a requirement before one can understand the Holy Spirit's
> > >intent
> > >in
> > > > Scripture?
> > > >
> > > > Peace be with you.
> > > > David Miller.
> > > >
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