Judy !! You are taking this much too personal. I do see what you are and have made that clear. I will restate ............... Judy Taylor, I think you would actually die for the Lord!! Few on this forum can match your sincerity or your sense of conviction. I don't doubt for a second that the Great God Almighty looks down on you with great pleasure!! He sees in your thought process nothing to fault - if Christ were a circle, you would be found standing squarely in the middle. There are times when you can be frustrating and even a little harsh (actually, a lot harsh). But you never speak from the headiness of intellectual pride.
Your personal story of victory in the Lord is inspiring and the sadness of personal disappointment is occasionally written between the lines. There is a very real sense in which I can say that I love Judy Taylor. Never, ever misunderstand this.
I still disagree with you on this infallible thing, however.
John Smithson
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:49:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
JD you need to be taken to task for your scandalous misquoting. You have no idea what DM
is saying but you constantly mock at the way he expresses himself and take personal offense
If you don't agree with him then get your scriptures together and challenge him. Noone has the
whole loaf JD but the effect of what I believe is taking me from glory to glory - you should have
seen what I was and I am nowhere near what I will be in spike of naysayers like you, Lance,
and whoever else is one with you in your folly.
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:36:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not scoff at you -- but this teaching, absolutely. The fact that neither you nor DM can effectively deal with the consequences of your own teaching is evidence that I am correct (well, ok, Lance too) to a passionate conviction of "certainty." Rather than pointing out the fact of my socffetry, why not correct the content of my statement? In other words, prove me wrongJD
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
And JD sits in the seat of the scornful/scoffer - either is appropriate!!On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:41:52 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:For those of us who are onlookers - how do we decide, here? Judy's opinion is clearly NOT just an opinion in her view - rather one of those "infallible" thingy's. The fact tht DM is clearly correcting her reveals that he, too, speaks ex-cathedraDo we not see what this false teaching brings us to? And what is that? "Only I am right by the giftedness of the Indwelling." An impossible doctrine, at best. The very height of arrogance at worse.JD
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
I am a whole lot more concerned with the "Risen Christ" Lance - I don't need to have a "weak in the flesh"Christ or an "eternal son" Christ. He did defeat principalities, powers, and wicked spirits and he made ashow of them openly. He has handed us the victory so now it is up to us to walk in it. Jesus overcamein the wilderness by using the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God.Now Lance, if I were going to take what you write seriously I would have to go to the Lord and tell Himthat the Comforter He sent me to lead me into all truth is not doing His job and helping me because after25+ years I am still not able to apprehend that for which I am apprehended and so therefore my Swordis useless. Lance said so. jtOn Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:39:58 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Indeed Judy, one can take that to the bank. However, often your understanding of these selfsame Scriptures are not 'bankable'. I'm watching the conversation between you and David. This then is proof positive. You would agree, would you not that ONE OF YOU IS MISAPPREHENDING THE MEANING OF SCRIPTURE REGARDING THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST?.From: Judy TaylorNailing jello is much more like trying to pin down men with deceitful heartswho change like the wind. Whereas the Word of God is the same Yesterday,Today, and Forever. You can say "It is written" and as the saying goes "takeit to the Bank"
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sorry David but this is a meaningless statement in this context. There is
not a single participant who'd not subscribe to what you've said hereunder.
(opinion-low, Bible-high) Do you know the _expression_ 'its like attempting to
nail jello'?I will have departed TT actually 'knowing' you to have been wrong as to your
understanding of Scripture and its employment in teaching and life.(NOT
broadly and, on every issue) This being the case one's confidence in other
matters is genuinely subject to serious questioning.
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: July 21, 2005 12:10
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14> Lance wrote:
>> Who, pray tell David, occupies the position you've
>> described. Do you know such a person and, will
>> you introduce her/him to us?
>
> Who? Me, Judy, Terry, Izzy, Kevin, etc. We all take the position that
> our
> opinion means little. What is important is what the Bible says.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
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