RE: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma

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No, JD, faith is NOT an emotion.  It is an act of the will. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:44 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma    True faith is rational not emotional.   DM   Nonsense.  I do not believe in emotionalism -- but faith as in "conviction" is an emotion.   Jd   -----Original Message----- From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:15:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Spalding Enigma Bill wrote: > Check out its translation of this word translated > "established" in the KJV.   Thanks, Bill.  That was helpful.  I understand better the reason for the passage now.   What do you think about the quote Lance posted?  It still seems rather superficial and misleading to me, but I don't have the context and I hate to nitpick anything without context.  One can do this with Bible verses too, all day long.  Context and the end of a conversation means everything.   The Isaiah passage is speaking about spiritual things, a prophetic utterance, and as I said before, nothing in the spirit can be understood without faith because nothing in the spirit can be perceived without faith. To then try and extend this to establishing the idea that understanding in general is based upon faith rather than reason, or that faith is not reasonable but rather emotional, etc., is going way beyond anything that can be gleaned from this passage.   Jesus said that unless they saw signs and wonders, they would not believe. Oh, I had better stop now.  I'm already speaking too much about a quote without any context, and it is probably stepping on one of Lance's icons. If the LXX of Isaiah 7:9 is the context of the quote, that is good enough for now.  I suspect if I heard it in the flow of a sermon or lecture, you would hear hearty amen's from me about it.  I just didn't like Blaine's take on it followed by Lance's amen to Blaine.  True faith is rational not emotional.   Peace be with you. David Miller.   ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.