Re: [TruthTalk] The LDS Jesus needed to be saved!

[Kevin Deegan]

Fact is the LDS Jesus falls an INFINITE amount short of the Jesus of the Bible!

 

The Jesus of the Bible is NOT, was NEVER  LACKING anything!

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily.

 

The Jesus of the Bible has ALL Power to Save! Always has had that power did not earn that power.

 

Jesus of the bible is not a Saved being but is the SAVIOR!

 

Jesus of the Bible did not have to gain ETERNAL LIFE as ALL LIFE already resides in the Person of the CREATOR of LIFE Jesus Christ!

The Character and person of the Jesus Christ of the BIBLE is drastically different from that of the BoM Jesus, they can not be the same person.

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Looks like the Mormon Jesus is not eternal in any sense of the word.

DAVEH:  I respectfully disagree, Judy.  We believe one who is created can be eternal.   Just as you, a created person, will become eternal once you obtain eternal life, so is Jesus eternal even though he was created by his Father in Heaven.  Now.....if on the other hand, you die and stay dead....then you would not be eternal.  Jesus arose from the dead, never to die again....hence, he is eternal.  Does that make sense?

Judy Taylor wrote:

 

 

Kevin what in the world is this??

Looks like the Mormon Jesus is not eternal in any sense of the word.  This is some patchwork gospel and it is

even endorsed by their President.  Shows the danger of going outside of God's own revelation for understanding

When we sow impatience we reap confusion.

 

 

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bruce McConkie confesses that "Christ... is a saved being."McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 257.

The official student manual, Doctrines of the Gospel, teaches that "the plan of salvation which he [Elohim] designed was to save his children, Christ included; neither Christ nor Lucifer could of themselves save anyone." Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Doctrines of the Gospel, Student Manual Salt Lake City, UT: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint, 1986, p. 15.

The same manual also quotes the tenth president and prophet, Joseph Fielding Smith, on the subject: The Savior did not have a fullness [of deity] at first, but after he received his body and the resurrection all power was given unto him both in heaven and in earth. Although he was a God, even the Son of God, with power and authority to create this earth and other earths, yet there were some things lacking in which he did not receive until after his resurrection. In other words, he had not received the fullness until he got a resurrected body. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Doctrines of the Gospel, Student Manual Salt Lake City, UT: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint, 1986 pp. 9-10

Pres, Benson, "Jesus was a God in the pre-mortal existence," He was still imperfect and lacking certain necessary things. Benson, Teachings, p. 6.

McConkie taught: "These laws [of salvation], instituted by the father, constitute the gospel of God, which gospel is the plan by which all of his spirit children, Christ included, may gain eternal life." McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, 2:215

"Jesus Christ is the Son of God… He came to earth to work out his own salvation." McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, 3:238

"by obedience and devotion to the truth he attained that pinnacle of intelligence which ranked him as a God." McConkie, Mormon Doctrine

 

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