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In a message dated 7/27/2005 5:56:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I hear Kevin saying is that
he wants to eat, drink and be merry, but still be
saved.
I guess you better listen more closely.
This traditional Christian faith is not just
narrow, but extremely so. The same psychology was what led to Black
slaves being defined as soulless, to Jews
being scapegoated, to the American Indian being esteemed as nothing
You left out Traditional Christianity was responsible for all the wars
too.
Blainer: That
too!! :>)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blainerb: What I hear Kevin saying is
that he wants to eat, drink and be merry, but still be
saved. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. His
doctrine that all who confess Christ go to heaven basically means there
is no hell for Christians, just for others who did not confess Christ, such
as the billions of Chinese, Africans, Indians, etc., etc., etc., children
included. This traditional Christian faith is not just narrow,
but extremely so. The same psychology was what led to Black slaves
being defined as soulless, to Jews being scapegoated, to the American Indian being esteemed as nothing--killing one dealt with legally about the
same as if you killed a dog.
In a message dated 7/26/2005 10:34:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You see, we are not all that different from traditional
Christians like yourself huh?
Christians Believe in a Personal Relationship with Jesus
LDS reject such. Bruce R. McConkie, stated
that people who speak of a "special relationship with Christ" are guilty
of "excessive zeal" and "pure sectarian nonsense." "Who Answers Prayers?"
Sunstone Review (April 1982), 13
Christians Believe that the Blood of Jesus christ cleanses from ALL
sin 1 JN 1:7
LDS The blood covers for some sins "Christians speak often of the
blood of Christ and its cleansing power. Much that is believed and taught
on this subject, however, is such utter nonsense and so palpably false
that to believe it is to lose one’s salvation. For instance, many
believe or pretend to believe that if we confess Christ with our lips and
avow that we accept him as our personal savior, we are thereby saved. They
say that his blood, without any other act than mere belief, makes us
clean." WHAT THE MORMONS THINK OF CHRIST, page 22 1976 edition
Christians believe in Being justified freely
by his grace through the redemption that
is in Christ Jesus...Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by
faith without the deeds of the law. (Romans 3:24, 28)
LDS believe "What then is
the law of justification?...... As with all other doctrines of salvation,
justification is available because of the atoning sacrifice of Christ, but
it becomes operative in the life of an individual only on conditions of
personal righteousness." Mormon Doctrine, by Mormon Apostle
Bruce R. McConkie, on page 408, under
"Justification"
MORMONS are NOT Chritians!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In a message dated 7/26/2005 6:23:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, at least now I think I
understand where you are coming from, and your bias against the term,
although I don’t necessarily agree. I still think that
you can be alive physically but not alive to the things of God.
I was thinking about the terms born again vs born, and this caused me
to think about the fact that an unborn fetus is alive, but it still
needs to be born. That is us spirituallyâ€â€we can be
physically born, but not born into the realm of God’s
Kingdom. We need to be quickened by the Holy Spirit. What
do you think of that analogy?
I agree--as would most Mormons, Izzy. That's because it is
the truth as most Christians understand it. You see, we are not
all that different from traditional Christians like yourself huh?
Blainerb
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