They have roads named after you JD :)
How is it you want to call "the fall" a "doctrine of original sin" and insist that noone is judged until they presonally sin.
regardless.  Yet when it comes to "righteousness" you appear to be holding to some kind of exaggerated "positional truth" doctrine where Christ did it all for you and you just need to receive - it is conferred on you by faith whether or not you walk in righteousness because he has done it for you. 
 
If you won't accept the first Adam fell and you inherited his fallout how can you so easily believe that the righteousness of the second Adam is just layed on you with no responsibility on your part?  Isn't this a little lopsided?
 
 
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:38:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 JD in this color
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:25:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't disagree with Romans 5:12 or Ezekiel 18.  The righteous judgment of God says that every man
will be rewarded for what he has done.  The prince of this world has been given legal access to us
by the sin of A&E when the dominion given to Adam by God was compromised.
 
We DO escape judgment for our disobedience  --   Heb  2:2-3 (if we are in Christ, of course.)
jt: Being "in Christ" meaning that we change directions and begin following the new or "divine"
nature which is the indwelling Holy Spirit.
 
You stress locomotion and I stress location, location, location.  
 
By one man sin entered into the world and death through sin - which spread because all have sinned and
by one man the gift of righteousness is given and this spreads the same way because the one who does
righteousness is the one who is righteous. 1 John 3:7 - Agreed????
 
" ....   which spread because all have sinned ...."  is the very thought that eliminates original sin.    
Soi, yes,  I agree.  JD 
 
jt: Do you agree that righteousness spreads the same way JD?  Sin spreads when like the old song
"We're doin' what comes naturally" just followin' the old fallen flesh around....  judyt
 
No I don't.   Righteousness is a gifted consideration   --  God exchanges faith for our personal righteousness.    What gets us saved keeps us saved.   In Ro 4,  Paul nowhere implies that the exchange of faith for righteousness is an initial consideration or a temporary one   ----------------   until we get up to speed with the acts of righteousness thingy.  No  --  this exhange is a perpetual one  (wake up, G !!!  You're missing all the fun). 
 
JD
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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