KJV Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise
false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very
elect.
NIV Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and
false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even
the elect-- if that were possible.
NAS Matthew 24:24 "For false Christs and
false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to
mislead, if possible, even the elect.
NKJ Matthew 24:24 "For false christs and
false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if
possible, even the elect.
Hi John, I quoted from the NIV, and
this because it does the best job of translating the latter portion of this
verse, which is the clause I wanted to emphasize. The other major translations
do a better job with the main clause, however; i.e., the word translated
"miracles" in the NIV is better translated "wonders" in the other translations.
You will be interested in noting that the Greek word most often
translated "miracles" in the NT is curiously absent from this verse.
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:15
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of
Jesus
Yes, but isn't that my point? False Christs will work (false) miracles (how could they be
anything else)
and will deceive some but not the elect. No?
I will have to take time to go back in time to see what Mentor #1
said. Did BT use the word impossible
rather than the translation "if possible" ? I think he did
but I will double check. The fact remains that Satan is no match
for God; his miracles are the "miracles" of a liar and a
deceiver. I am not going to hell by mistake. No one
is.
Jd
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <
wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To:
[email protected]Sent: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:56:18
-0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus
You did not read me
correctly, John. I am suggesting you study the whole verse.
Read it all. Do not leave out one word. False
Christs WILL perform miracles, whether anyone is
deceived or not. Please let me know when that sinks
in.
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Sooooooooooooooo, you just ignore the part that says, "
... mislead, if it were possible even the elect" ?
If I read you correctly, you can drop those words and have the verse
say exactly the same thing? So why the words?
JD
-----Original
Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <
wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To:
[email protected]Sent:
Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:07:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of
Jesus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a number of mentors. BT is the most current and, perhaps, the most
significant. BT has his
mentors, as well. You have yours.
Secondly, the passage quoted I understood to be saying that it was not possible to to
deceive the saints. That was my point. Where is
the problem?
JD
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The
problem seems to be that you could not understand the whole verse. You
took from it what you wanted and ignored the
parts that shows you to be
in error....again.