Once again happily (for you), the _expression_ is 'well done' and not 'well said'. You get so much wrong one could only wish that you would enjoy your 'mature' years by doing more and saying less. You constantly embarass yourself.
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 06:33:08 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Re:'because it is different from mine'? No. FWIW I believe that your heart is God's while many of your 'words' are not.
 
Lance, you don't know my heart any more than you know Jd's or your own for that matter.  All you can know about another
person is what they say because it is out of the abundance that fills the heart that the mouth speaks.  This is how one can
know if another person speaks God's Word or words from another source.  It's called spiritual discernment.  Since you very
openly choose the wisdom of this world .... Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 
 
That's really all I and many others have consistently said concerning you.
 
And I say that you and the "many others" lack spiritual discernment. You don't have to agree with everything I say but I have
given scripture as the basis for what I believe.  You and the "many others" have not.  You quote the flavor of the month
theologian or "orthodoxy"
 
You, on the other hand have said the same concerning those who have so spoken of/to you.
 
Mostly "of" - I have yet to have an honest and up front discussion with any of you who major in critique.
 
Time has shown that you are locked into the way you speak so......this is a go nowhere thingy is it not, Judy? 
 
I want to be not only locked in but a doer as well as a speaker of God's Word.  I would hope this is not a
go nowhere thingy Lance, but that is up to you.  As Peter noted "where is there to go? There is just one
source of the Words of Life"
 
 
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 06:08:28 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Actually 'I' do know the heart of JD. He is my brother.
 
You call him your brother because you are both enamoured of the same theologians and your hearts are filled
with their teachings; this is what you have in common. 
 
If you don't, after all of this time then perhaps you are not his sister.
 
My brothers and sisters are those who choose to gather around God's Word with me. 
 
You do appear to have a rather convoluted understanding of 'All' truth.
 
Because it is different from yours Lance????
 
 
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:53:24 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Oophs!!
 
Other than the 'heart' of JD
 
.... and I meant to also point out that you don't "KNOW" the heart of JD.  Not even JD himself knows the heart of JD
(Jer 17:9); only God sees the heart of JD and what it is full of will determine where JD spends eternity when he either
stands or falls before Him at the last day.  jt 
 
 
Again , you make comment that has little to do with what I have written.  At least you are consistent.
You really like the sound of the "narrow road" thingy, don'e you?   I prefer the part that says there are so many, they cannot be counted.  
JD 
 

From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:45:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"

So?
We may be at different places in our pilgrimage but are basically travelling the same road which is the
narrow path with he strait gate.  Whereas others on TT appear to be breathing rarified air and on the
broad road ...  jt
 
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:30:48 -0400 knpraise@aol.com writes:
I have a definition and fully understand what "judgmentalism" is.   Nothing double tongued about it.  Give me your definition and I'll share mine.  The clear reason why you Wingers refuse to present a list of doctrines upon which we must all agree has to do with the impossibility of the matter  --  your list, Deegan's list,  Judy's list or DM's list would not be the same  !!!  So you all pretend to agree with each other while refusing, at the same time, to offer specifics as to this mythological list.   You judge others to hell but refuse to be accountable. &n bsp; Ditto on this definition for judgmentalism.   You all cannot give a definition that does not find yourselves at fault.  
 
But I already knew this. 
 
JD 
 
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Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:56:19 -0500
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How can you be so double-tongued, JD? You accuse me of that all the time!!! iz


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of knpraise@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:50 PM
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I believe it is spelled "judgmentalism,"  Bub, and why bring up the word anyway  -  no one on the right has a clue as to its definition.  Hard to accuse someone of it when you don't know what it is.
 
JD 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosexuality

And your Judgemental too!
 
Is your Brand of HATE speech and JUDGEMENTALISM allowed in the People's Republique of CANUCKastan?


Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin: Y'all confuse HONESTY with HATEFULNESS. Y'all don't SPEAK, Kevin, y'all SPEW! JD has recognized this 'bout y'all since I bin on TT.
 
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Sent: September 29, 2005 15:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality

Stop being so HATEfull Lance.

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He did indeed 'hit sin on the head', Judy. Mostly however, he hit it on the head with those in the 'churches' of His day. That ring any bells with any of you out there? (Judy, Kevin, Iz) At whom/with whom do we see His anger most expressed? At whom/with whom do we see the opposite? Why look, it's the very ones y'all choose to hate, demonstrate against etc. Hmmmmmmmmmm strange hugh? Do we all read the sa me Bible?
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Sent: September 29, 2005 07:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality

Why arn't you talking about the "gay issue?"  We are supposed to minister the way Jesus did as He is our example
and He always hit sin head on ie He confronted the rich young ruler with his heart of covetousness which he was not
yet willing to part with.  Jesus didn't chase after him and keep talking about grace.  He did minister to those God showed
Him and warned them to go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon them.  But He didn't minister to everyone he met.
Today we take sin so lightly because we don't believe God means what He says or that the chaos in our lives is rooted
in sin and unrighteousness God is supposed to bless this mess because of grace, because he loves us so much and this
is the lie.  He will not do it because to do so He would have to violate His own Word.  You can talk grace till the cows
come home but until this person hears the truth and is willing to repent from the heart God will not honor your words JD
 
 
 
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:15:10 -0500 Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net> writes:
Well,  maybe God has put us together "for such a time as this."   Right now the relationship is something of a novelty  --   at least for him.   My conversation with him is different from "the others."  So,  maybe I might be able to make sense to him.    What I am not doing is talking about the gay issue, per se.  He is but I am trying to get him to stop and examine what it means when it says that "Christ died for us while we were YET sinners."   My concern is that he understand the gospel of grace  and , and, and, what it really mean s to be "saved."    The new birth will produce   -  given time   ...............  so that is where I begin  -----------&n bsp;  with the new birth.     JD
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I wish you well.  Terry
 

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