On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:54:52 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can tell that Bill believes that we are MADE righteous by the activity of Another.The instant I am "saved,"So was the instant you were "saved" and by what authority do you say this JD?Well, I guess I was saved the moment God accepted the faith of Christ in theplace of my failing righteousness.In another post you say you are "being saved" Isn't jumping the gun a bitpresumptuous?When were you saved.I don't use that kind of rhetoric. I am daily walking in hope with my eyes fixedon Jesus the author and finisher of my faith.I am fully and completely viewed [by God] as being righteous - long before I do anything.You might be 'accepted in the Beloved' so long as Jesus is OK with that but God sees youas you are - warts and all. He is not into 'reality' games.Reality is being saved while I was yet a sinner .....He went to the cross for us while we were all sinners - However, salvation is awalk. He does not just wave a magic wand over the whole world taking everyoneto heaven with him in his resurrection. There is and will be no darkness in heaven.God no longer taking into account my sins.He is if you are not progressively letting go of them. You will get to spen eternitywith the one you love the most.well before I have climbed the Mountain we call Maturity and rested at its summit. God inChrist has done this for us apart from our efforts or complicity [in terms of action].Both God and the devil know when they are being conned; a sincere baby believer who isdoing the best they know how may be protected for a time. However, the curse is all overthose who are still on pablum when they should be ready for strong meat.Baloney.Then you don't believe that God chastises or that the Vinedresser prunes? This isnews - Who knows what kind of a weird and strange gospel you hold to JD.Nothing hopeless about that gospel. It is the gospel of works that is hopeless, from thefires of hell, and a heresy before the Lord (was I straight-forward enough?)In your dreams JD....not to mention the bible.Your peculiar theology is most definitely NOT God's wisdom from the Bible.
From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:54:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
True to form, David!. The good ol' yes/no. Remember those days? Check the archives. You guys declined verbs & discussed prepositions ad nauseum. (nauseum being the operative word) Don't you remember his position on this issue? I do! In the end he couldn't join you on the 'yellow brick road'.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: October 06, 2005 13:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
> Bill might not have time to present a Biblical case right now, but I would
> certainly like to hear from him as to whether or not he agrees with your
> hopele ss gospel.
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> Bill, how about answering with a simple yes or no. Do you have the
> viewpoint that nobody is complete in Christ and that those in Christ will
> continue to sin every day?
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> Peace be with you..
> David Miller.
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