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I'm glad you clarified this. I thought maybe you had 1 John 5:8 in
mind, but deep down, I think I knew better. :-)
If you study the Scriptures a little closer, you will find that what you
attribute to man is actually attributed to the Holy Ghost. For example,
consider Heb. 3:7, which quotes a psalm, something which you apparently
attribute to man, but the author of Hebrews attributes to the Holy Ghost.
When I hear the statement that the Bible contains truth, there is an
implication that some of it does not contain truth. The problem with this
is that it suggests the Bible is only trustworthy when one weeds
through the parts that is true and separates it from what is false (kind of
like the Thomas Jefferson approach to the Bible). When I hear
the statement that the Bible is truth, this has the implication that there
is no falsehood in the Bible (in other words, the Bible in its entirety is
trustworthy).
DM.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:53
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will
never be uniformily apprehended!!!
Of course it did. You Judy and Linda simply don't
read. I said there were at least three sources of
information in the biblical record. God "thus said the Lord"
(verses abound); Satan "thou shalt not surely die" (you have
no idea where this is found IN SCRITPURE ????) and man ( many of
the psalms.)
You, in return, offered nothing ----- once again
----- that speaks to the issue. And you can't.
JD -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]Sent:
Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT
will never be uniformily apprehended!!!
So now I have to provide proof whenever you come up with another of your
baseless statements?
Your assertion contained no supporting data, why not?
Where did you learn the Bible "contains" the truth?
Thy word IS Truth JN
17:17
It is not a "message"
It does not contain truth
it is the very word of God
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wrote:
Kevin, kevin, kevin ---------------
you have offered nothing for proof. Who among us argues what is
written in 17:17. The biblcial message does present at least three sources of
information. If you need a
proof text for that , well, you're just not reading
the book.
JD -----Original Message----- From:
Kevin Deegan < openairmission@yahoo. com> To: [email protected]Sent: Thu, 13
Oct 2005 04:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will
never be uniformily
apprehended!!!
Since the "scholars contains truth" crowd won't provide proof tetxts, here they are:
JN 17 :17 thy word is ((contains))
Truth
Hi Iz,
I presume that
when you wrote the following (that about which Judy responds, "what
Izzy says stands ..."), you were
asking a rhetorical question -- the answer being, Of course
not: "Can you
separate God and His ... written Word?" I would like to
challenge you to reconsider. If there is no difference, i.e., no
separation, between God and his written word, then go ahead and pray
to your Bible, for they are one in the same. You (not you personally, but
your cohorts) criticized John for suggesting that the Bible contains the
Word of God, demanding proof texts; yet you yourself write that it is "the
Truth contained within" the Bible which is holy, and that Jesus' word
speaks to you from those pages, if you
have ears to hear. Would you mind explaining to me how this is different from that which set you (pl) off
concerning John's statement?
Christians know
better than to think it's okay to pray to their Bibles, yet
with their own words, they sometimes exalt the Bible to a status due
only to God. The two are not the same: that is what Lance is saying, and
that is what John is saying, and, if I correctly apprehend your latest
comment, that is what you are saying -- Judy's kudos noted. I think we all agree. Praise the Lord!
Bill
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