In rules of debate, one does not have to prove what isn't BEFORE another proves what is. The burden of proof, here, is on those that claim a thing to be --- Dean, the ball is in your court.
Jd
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From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:40:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter
Dave, if you believe Dean has spoken untruthfully, please present some documentation that refutes his statements
DAVEH: Isn't that a repeat of what you wanted me to do before, Perry....prove a negative? Impossible. Dean made the claim, and the onus is upon him to prove his claim to be true. It is not up to me to prove it false. However, as I mentioned in another post tonight, official LDS doctrine teaches that Mary was a virgin at the birth of Jesus. (I can provide chapter and verse if you wish....just request it.) Is that adequate proof for you, Perry?
Now let's get back to the lie that Dean continued to perpetrate even after I corrected him several days ago. Dean stated below..............
the HOLY Ghost is supposed (their claim not mine)to have
came down and had sex with Mary and Jesus was produced from this
sexual act. So their God is a God of Incest.
...........which is a lie. Notice his comment......
(their claim not mine)
..........OK, if that is what we claim is official LDS doctrine, then it should be easy for you or Dean (his claim not mine) to quote the doctrine. If he or you cannot do that, then will you admit that the above claim is a lie, Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DAVEH: Isn't that a repeat of what you wanted me to do before, Perry....prove a negative? Impossible. Dean made the claim, and the onus is upon him to prove his claim to be true. It is not up to me to prove it false. However, as I mentioned in another post tonight, official LDS doctrine teaches that Mary was a virgin at the birth of Jesus. (I can provide chapter and verse if you wish....just request it.) Is that adequate proof for you, Perry?
Now let's get back to the lie that Dean continued to perpetrate even after I corrected him several days ago. Dean stated below..............
the HOLY Ghost is supposed (their claim not mine)to have
came down and had sex with Mary and Jesus was produced from this
sexual act. So their God is a God of Incest.
...........which is a lie. Notice his comment......
(their claim not mine)
..........OK, if that is what we claim is official LDS doctrine, then it should be easy for you or Dean (his claim not mine) to quote the doctrine. If he or you cannot do that, then will you admit that the above claim is a lie, Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, if you believe Dean has spoken untruthfully, please present some documentation that refutes his statements. Just blathering on about how he is being untruthful without any you showing anyevidence does not make your point at all.
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:29:20 -0700
DAVEH: Dean.........I don't know what has gotten into you, but it does seem you are beginning to foam at the mouth! =-O
May I suggest you slow down and think about what you are saying about my beliefs before you hit the send button. It is hard enough to think you actually believe (about my beliefs) what you posted below, let alone thinking that other TTers would be so lacking in cognizance as to believe what you said below is true. I don't know what you are smoking, Dean....but you do seem to be blowing it out your ears tonight!
FWIW.......Brother Dean, calm down and relax a little. IMHO you would be better advised to stick to the truth IF you want folks to take you and your ministry seriously.
Dean Moore wrote:
cd: JD I don't think you realize how much opposed the Mormon
religion and the bible really are or you would change the
above statements. Example: In the Mormon belief Jesus Christ is
just another man whom believed upon God and is now God of this
world -but only this world. Just as DaveH believes He will be God
of another world-and one must believe upon him to received
salvation on that world.This is what Mormons do-they play
games.They are using a totally different language.The God
they believe in had sex in heaven-with one of the women that they
call from the grave whom stay eternally pregnant- which produced
Mary and the HOLY Ghost is supposed (their claim not mine)to have
came down and had sex with Mary and Jesus was produced from this
sexual act. So their God is a God of Incest. They do not believe
Jesus is the exclusive way to heaven-Joseph is a way of salvation-
so is coming to the temple once a year. How can you John claim
(declare) someo ne whom carries this belief as saved?
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