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From: Charles Perry Locke <cpl2602@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:57:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter
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>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:30:26 -0400
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>Yes, I do see the point. But did he make this statement ?
History records that he did...http://www.watchman.org/lds/moonmen.htm, among many others that reference the same material. Do you understand that my discomfort with such testimony is based on a personal reference to having one's own words misquoted and used against that person? It happens so very often, in fact, that this method of disproving is of little influence on me. I am not convinced that JS was a very intelligent theologian as those things are measured out. I have found nothing profoundly taught by Him. Unusual? Yes. Different? Yes, again. Profound -- no. This is hearsay testimony. I would be interested in DH defense of this point -- the info recorded on that we sight.
>Did he make this statement as a prophet of God?
I do not beleive that he claimed he was speaking for god when he made the statement.
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:30:26 -0400
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>Yes, I do see the point. But did he make this statement ?
History records that he did...http://www.watchman.org/lds/moonmen.htm, among many others that reference the same material. Do you understand that my discomfort with such testimony is based on a personal reference to having one's own words misquoted and used against that person? It happens so very often, in fact, that this method of disproving is of little influence on me. I am not convinced that JS was a very intelligent theologian as those things are measured out. I have found nothing profoundly taught by Him. Unusual? Yes. Different? Yes, again. Profound -- no. This is hearsay testimony. I would be interested in DH defense of this point -- the info recorded on that we sight.
>Did he make this statement as a prophet of God?
I do not beleive that he claimed he was speaking for god when he made the statement.
Well, then --- so what?
>Is this a statement of faith for the Mormon religion?
This is not in the mormon statements of faith. So how does this effect an argument against Mormonis?
>Is this a statement of faith for the Mormon religion?
This is not in the mormon statements of faith. So how does this effect an argument against Mormonis?
>The prophets of old were not inspired in their daily comings and goings. >I am sure they spoke and did things that were not in line with truth or >even practicalities.
Well, I am not as sure as you. Do you have any examples?
The fact that Joseph Smith made the man on the moon statement goes to his general credibility as a man of (the mormon) god. Have you not been reading what I have been posting? I even offered a likely reason for his believing and repeating such! Can you get off my back now? Now you went and got me laughing. Let me make something very clear. Of the anti-Mormon pundits on this forum, I see you as concerned for a truthful presentation as you dialogue with DH. I just think that such peripheral arguments go nowhere. Look, you have been successful in getting DH and Blaine to agree to use the bible only in their responses. If , in fact, the subject were limited to that AND the central issues of Kingdom Theology, the discussion wold prove to be of greater importance and, in terms of immediacy, much more irresistible.
I am officially off your back. The prophet thingy - gee, just think about it a little. Jonah never believed in his own mission !! Samson was a sex fiend. Abraham fibbed to save his live. Ditto his son ( a family thing.). And I could give you a list of men of God whose lives where a mess, from time to time.
Perry
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