RE: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

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Vacuity?????? Really, the voice of wisdom is inaudible to some. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:17 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter   Terry wrote  >  According for the example you just gave,  there are virgins who have ruptured hymens.  This being so, we cannot conclusively say that a torn hymen is a sign of a non virgin.  If we want conclusive proof, we must examine God's word, which assures us that she was a virgin.  No examination needed.     Why is this so difficult for you? A girl can have a torn hymen and never have had sex, but she cannot be a virgin if she has had sex: her hymen renders that impossible.   Do you think the Jews believed Mary was a virgin, just because of her or Joseph's claim that God had made her pregnant (that is, after all, what the word of God would tell them)? Of course not. Sometimes your reductionism borders on vacuity. The proof was in the pudding -- so to speak :>)   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter   Taylor wrote: Hymen has nothing to do with it.  She never had sexual intercourse until after Jesus was born; hence His brothers and sisters.  izzy   Au Contraire! Sometimes I think you all just want something to argue about. Do you think God chose a girl whose hymen had been ripped riding horses? Of course not, for then there would be no way of proving that she had not conceived by engaging in the sex act (even though in fact she had not). The hymen has everything to do with it: Mary was a virgin -- and visibly so.   Bill =========================================================== Terry