Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:30:37 -0700

The kettle calling the pot black. 
 
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:21:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Restoration versus condemnation-David Miller

LOL This is not the first time DH has used this tack.
Something like, I did not specifically call you a doper nor did I use that exact word therefore it is OK to impune your character
Sadly this seems to be a standard Mormon defense mechanism
along with the Victim defense "quit attacking us with the facts"
 
Besides there must be something wrong with you bringing up all this negative information about his blessed joe.

Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dave, you just don't quit, do you. In your statements below you appear to
apologize, while continuing to abase my character...get this...

>DAVEH: I'm sorry you feel that way, Perry. I thought it to be pretty
>well understood my most clear thinking Americans that asking that (smoking)
>question is a joking way to point out the ludicrousness of what they said.

Now you are implying that I am not a clear thinking American. Nice jab.

>It was not at all intended to imply that either you or Dean were
>dopers.....just that your claims are pretty wild, as if you can't discern
>reality. My apologies if I failed to convey that message so that you (and
>Dean) could understand it.

No we are incapable of understanding a gest? I know it is was a gest, I just
found it to be tasteless, offensice, and unwelcome.

> BTW.........I pretty much know that both you and De an are stone cold
>sober, but I fail to understand why you are so sensitive.

It is not that I am so sensitive, it is that you have not earned to right to
joke that way with me.

>I did not call either of you a doper....I just asked what you were smoking.

That is like me saying, "I did not call you a wife beater, I just asked, 'Do
you still beat your wife?' (in gest, of course). Nice try, Dave.

>The proper answer had you wanted to give it would have been,
>"nothing".....to clear the smoke from the air.

Now it is my problem for not giving the right answer...and "clear the smoke
from the air"...another bad joke, Dave. You just don't stop, do you?

>Instead, both of you apparently have taken offense, assuming the opposite
>of what any half-witted kid would fully understand.

Now we are half-witted...or less than half witted? We can't even understand
as much as a half-witted kid? You are a true apologizer, Dave!

>Yet, Dean called me a p agan and you did not utter a peep as far as I know.
>As you know, I've got a pretty thick skin, and have come to expect such
>from some TTers, so I don't feel the need to cry foul at the ad hom. I
>just find it interesting that you guys can dish it out, but seem to get all
>confused and choke on that which is returned.....even when it is a joke.

I don't think Dean was joking when he called you a pagan, and I happen to
agree with him, that those who follow the mormon faith are pagans, not
knowing the God and Jesus of the Bible, folowing occultic rituals and
worshipping a flase god. How do you define 'pagan'?

Now, when he equated you to flatulence, I was offended, but I let John
handle it since he has been mothering the group lately, and I think he did a
fine job. So, I did not intervene.

And, when I called you "sly" a few months back you did not complain...until
someone else said they thought it was an ad-hom. Boy, you sure jumped on the
bandwagon at that p oint...I apologized, and you, taking advantage of the
situation, flogged me for days over that one, while at the same time
refusing to apologize for an injustice you had committed.

> FTR......Again I apologize for damaging your sensitivities, Perry.

Notice that you word it so that it is not your problem you offended me, it
is my problem...my "sensitivities"

After reading the above "apology", why do I get the feeling that you are not
apologiing, but turning this into an opportunity to further demean Dean and
I?

Perry


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