See here is an example of:
You are a Gentile
You are not Worthy to recieve the LDS Truth
Time to hide it,,,,
Is it hard to see that SOME LDS might take it to the point of LYING?
Who is the Elder talking about?
Elder Dallin H. Oaks "Some have suggested that it is morally permissible to lie to promote a
good cause. For example, some Mormons have taught or implied that lying is
okay if you are lying for the Lord."
good cause. For example, some Mormons have taught or implied that lying is
okay if you are lying for the Lord."
IS THIS MORAL? What can be sacrificed?
"My duty as a member of the Council of the Twelve is to protect what is most unique about the LDS church, namely the authority of priesthood, testimony regarding the restoration of the gospel, and the divine mission of the Savior. Everything may be sacrificed in order to maintain the integrity of those essential facts. Thus, if Mormon Enigma reveals information that is detrimental to the reputation of Joseph Smith, then it is necessary to try to limit its influence and that of its authors." Apostle Dallin Oaks, footnote 28, Inside the Mind of Joseph Smith: Psychobiography and the Book of Mormon, Introduction p. xliii
LDS Apostle Boyd K. Packer gave an address to the Fifth Annual Church
Educational System Religious Educators Symposium:
Educational System Religious Educators Symposium:
There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to
want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not.
Some things that are true are not very useful.
want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not.
Some things that are true are not very useful.
LDS REALITY & Never Criticize Past or Present Church Leaders - Even if it's True
"It is one thing to depreciate a person who exercises corporate power or even government power. It is quite another thing to criticize or depreciate a person for the performance of an office to which he or she has been called of God. It does not matter that the criticism is true. As Elder George F. Richards, President of the Council of the Twelve, said in a conference address in April 1947, 'when we say anything bad about the leaders of the Church, whether true or false, we tend to impair their influence and their usefulness and are thus working against the Lord and his cause.' ... The Holy Ghost will not guide or confirm criticism of the Lord's anointed, or of Church leaders, local or general. This reality should be part of the spiritual evaluation that LDS readers and viewers apply to those things written about our history and those who made it."
- Dallin H. Oaks, "Reading Church History," CES Doctrine and Covenants Symposium, Brigham Young University, 16 Aug. 1985, page 25. also see Dallin H. Oaks, "Elder Decries Criticism of LDS Leaders," quoted in The Salt Lake Tribune, Sunday August 18, 1985, p. 2B
- Dallin H. Oaks, "Reading Church History," CES Doctrine and Covenants Symposium, Brigham Young University, 16 Aug. 1985, page 25. also see Dallin H. Oaks, "Elder Decries Criticism of LDS Leaders," quoted in The Salt Lake Tribune, Sunday August 18, 1985, p. 2B
"the endless subterfuges and prevarications which our present condition
impose . . . threaten to make our rising generation a race of deceivers."
Charles W. Penrose to President John Taylor, 1887
impose . . . threaten to make our rising generation a race of deceivers."
Charles W. Penrose to President John Taylor, 1887
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: I'm not sure I'd agree with you on that, Terry. Do you have a reference? It seems to me that there was a lot of stuff that was meant to be hidden....especially from those whose intent is to do harm. Seems like Jesus set an example in Mk 15 when he refused to answer those who made false accusations against him....
[2] And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it.
[3] And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.
[4] And Pilate asked him again, saying, Answerest thou nothing? behold how many things they witness against thee.
[5] But Jesus yet answered nothing; so that Pilate marvelled.
........If all things were meant to be revealed to anybody who asked, then why are there any mysteries in the Bible?
Terry Clifton wrote:Hate to butt in here folks, but if memory serves me correctly, the Bible teaches us to always be ready to give an answer for what we believe.
Terry
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Dave Hansen wrote:DAVEH: Nor has my implied answer been clear to you. I've previously said I would not discuss our Temple ceremonies, nor do I want to discuss LDS theology with anti-Mormons. Did you not understand that I consider it futile to due business with an anti-Mormon? As I see it, anti-Mormons are not seeking truth, they are seeking to attack.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:Dave,
Perhaps my question has not been clear...
What does "Pay Lay Ale" mean?
If we are going to do business your way than lay your cards face up on the table.
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