cd: The understanding of hell can/will do just that. The old preacher says that in order to get one saved he first must have an understanding that he is lost and on the way to hell. The old fear message these modern "college boys" reject for lets love them into heaven-not scare the "Hell" out of them. Which got better results from your father "college boy"? Son come home at 11:00 pm because I love you-or-Son I'm trusting you to come home at 11:00 pm or I'm selling that car?
----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: 10/29/2005 11:10:49 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to knowPerhaps if we are observant we can get a glimpse into the thinking of DH. Might he be the one who holds tenaciously to ALL (inspite of Logic, Truth, and common decency) realizing the weak foundation that joe is and for fear that loss of one item might bring his whole house down?
Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Cd: Each and every one of these difference shows failure to receive the words of Jesus Christ as truth-How can one claim to believe in Jesus and deny the truth of His words?The reason the rest of the "house would flutter to the gutter" is that to be a Christian is to live by the words of Christ and nothing else and to agree with anything else is too allow Satan a place of deviation in the believers life. Here is a Quotation from John Bunyan's" Holy War made by Shaddai Upon Diabolus".' When Immanuel', says he, 'had driven Diabolus and all his forces out of the city of Mansoul, Diabolus preferred a petition to Immanuel, that he might have only a small part of the city. When this was rejected, he begged to have to have only a little room within the walls. But Immanuel answered, "He should have no place at all, no, not to rest the soul of his foot."cd: The question you must ask yourself DaveH is what role do you do you best fit in the above scenario?----- Original Message -----From: DaveSent: 10/29/2005 12:38:08 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to knowWhat is at the root of the disagreement between a knowledgeable Mormon and the traditional Christian thinker? What say ye, DH.
DAVEH: There are quite a few sticking points with me, John. I'm not sure I could focus on only one though. The foremost one that comes to mind most of the time I'm pondering our differences (usually while driving, for some reason) is our different understandings of the nature of hell. I've covered it quite a bit in times past, so there are probably few TTers who would want to hear my perspective again.
Another distinctly odd difference (from my perspective) is the commonly held belief by Protestants who can accept the pre-mortal existence of God, Jesus and angels, yet deny that we could have existed there as well.
The Trinity Doctrine is another theory that I find intriguing, as it seems to me to be so obviously contrived. I suppose there are things about LDS theology that would cause TTers to think similarly.
Theologically though, the failure to recognize the primary apostasy and subsequent belief in the inherent authority of the believer to be the most primary foundational differences between us.
Obviously there are tons of other differences of varying degrees of importance. But the ones I've mentioned above seem to be the ones that I've found curiously interesting. Each one seems so readily apparent (to me) that I am quite amazed that it is so difficult for Protestants to view it in similar light. I tend to attribute it to the house of cards theology theory though. IF a Protestant were to agree with me on any single point above, the rest of the house would flutter to the gutter. Hence, it might explain why there is such a vehement reluctance by some to agree with any s ingle point a Mormon may make.....or even allow another fellow Christian that latitude.
If you were to ask me what I think a Protestant's disagreement would be with Mormonism, I would suspect that two words would be at the root of his feelings.....Joseph Smith. But that's just a guess on my part. How do you see it John?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes !!! and this is perhaps more to the point than my thinking. But the peripheral discussion(s) actually, in a way, strengthen(s) the "opposition" (in this case, DH) in that we allow him to (the opponent) continue in the single most important concept of his personal theology and upon which all else is based (for him).What is at the root of the disagreement between a knowledgeable Mormon and the traditional Christian thinker? What say ye, DH.JD-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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