David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you accept that the Reformers adopted it due to their familiarity
with RCC doctrines?
There is no doubt that tradition is a powerful force, even among those
who break away from what they consider to be bad tradition.
Nevertheless, there is evidence that the Reformers believed the
Trinity because of their own studies on the subject.
DAVEH: For anyone to think they were not heavily biased by their RCC
affiliation stretches the imagination. As I see it, their break with
the RCC was based on their differences of opinion. If they had studied
the TD and not found it distasteful to their beliefs, then there would
be no reason to break from that tradition.
DaveH wrote:
IOW, had the RCC folks not been using it, do you think the Reformers
would have taken it as their own doctrine?
Just consider that John Calvin's primary contention against Michael
Servetus was the doctrine of the Trinity. Calvin considered anyone
who taught against the Trinity to be a heretic who deserved to be
burned at the stake.
DAVEH: An interesting....if not harsh....Christian attitude!
Read his own arguments against Servetus's sebellianism and you cannot
possibly think that he simply adopted the Trinity because of
tradition. Calvin clearly studied it for himself.
DAVEH: I have no doubt that he did study it himself, but his acceptance
of it does not change its nature.....which as I see it was a politically
motivated doctrine of obfuscation. I would not be surprised if Calvin
felt the need to retain it for the same reason. From his perspective,
anybody teaching against it might be a real threat to his religious
foundation.
DaveH wrote:
BTW.....It is not altogether surprising that some early Mormons
believed it, as most of them came from Protestant stock, and would
have been versed (and biased) in Protestant doctrines.
Good point. I have made the case many times in this forum that from a
historical point of view, Mormonism is a branch of Protestant
Christianity.
DAVEH: Whilst the people came from a Protestant background, I don't see
why you would think the theology did likewise. There were doctrines
(TD, infant baptism, etc) that were not a part of Biblical Christianity
that the RCC adopted and some of the Reformers henceforth adopted. I
don't see any of that in Mormonism.....do you? I'm perhaps too close to
LDS theology to see such, but if you do I'd appreciate you sharing it.
The interesting thing is that you consider Mormonism to be a
restoration of primitive Christianity, while many of us view Mormonism
as an extreme furtherance of the apostasy.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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