Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

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Judy  --  what in the world could you possibly point to in Bill's writing in the most recent posts that cause you to think that he is making such a separation  --  or that he is even discussing the use of these two concepts (read:words)?   It appears to me that you are just looking for something to argue about.    

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

 

 

Point taken Bill - but are you saying that a bishop is not an elder?

The apostle Peter called himself an elder (1 Peter 5:1)

 

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:46:21 -0700 "Taylor" <wmtaylor@plains.net> writes:

 

Are you reading from the Latin Vulgate Bill?  My Bible calls them "elders"

 

You might oughta check your reference, Judy. The word is episkopos -- from epi, "over"; skopos, "seer" -- translated "bishop" in the KJV.

 

Bill

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From: Judy Taylor

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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

- yes they are to be "examples" to

the flock but Jesus is head of the Church and they are at best undershepherds. 

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:49:02 -0700 "Taylor" <wmtaylor@plains.net> writes:

cd writes: Better read Titus 1:9-13

 

jt writes: Where in scripture does one find a "Bishop-led" Church?

Titus 1.7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; 8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision . . .

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)