Now Kevin, we don't despise crosses, we just like stars better.  :>) Blainerb
 
Jesus paid for all our sins when He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane. Laurel Rohlfing, “Sharing Time: The Atonement,” Friend, Mar. 1989, 39
 
"The Savior atoned for our sins by suffering in Gethsemane and by giving his life on the cross. It is impossible for us to fully understand how he suffered for all of our sins. In the Garden of Gethsemane, the weight of our sins caused him to feel such agony and heartbreak that be bled from every pore (see D&C 19:18-19). " Gospel Principles, Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1979, pg. 66
 
BYU professor Robert J. Matthews, who on page 282 of his book, A Bible! A Bible!, wrote, “It was in Gethsemane, on the slopes of the Mount of Olives, that Jesus made his perfect atonement by the shedding of his blood-more so than on the cross
 
Apostle Bruce McConkie, stated, “Where and under what circumstances was the atoning sacrifice of the Son of God made? Was it on the Cross of Calvary or in the Garden of Gethsemane? It is to the Cross of Christ that most Christians look when centering their attention upon the infinite and eternal atonement. And certainly the sacrifice of our Lord was completed when he was lifted up by men; also, that part of his life and suffering is more dramatic and, perhaps, more soul stirring. But in reality the pain and suffering, the triumph and grandeur, of the atonement took place primarily in Gethsemane (Doctrinal New Testament Commentary 1:774)
 
The Savior began shedding His blood for all mankind, not on the cross but in the Garden of Gethsemane.  (Russell M. Nelson, “His Mission and Ministry,” New Era, Dec. 1999)
 
we are Reconciled thru the cross
Col 1:20 having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself
Eph 2:16 that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross
 
Our debt nailed to the cross
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross
 
He bore our sins on the cross
1 Pt 2 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree


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Now Kevin, we don't despise crosses, we just like stars better.  :>)
Blainerb
 
In a message dated 12/13/2005 6:12:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The cats out of the bag:
Christians Glory in the cross you dispise it since you are of those that the Bible says are ENEMIES of the Cross whose END is DESTRUCTION!
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Ph 3 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
 
You are an example of those that mind earthly things such as your LUSTFUL MIND.
 
What specifically is so WIERD here? Except for ENEMIES that is.
 
On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
The emblem of suffering and shame;
And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
For a world of lost sinners was slain.
Refrain
So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
Till my trophies at last I lay down;
I will cling to the old rugged cross,
And exchange it some day for a crown.
O that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
Has a wondrous attraction for me;
For the dear Lamb of God left His glory above
To bear it to dark Calvary.
Refrain
In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
A wondrous beauty I see,
For ’twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
To pardon and sanctify me.
Refrain
To the old rugged cross I will ever be true;
Its shame and reproach gladly bear;
Then He’ll call me some day to my home far away,
Where His glory forever I’ll share.
 
 


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