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I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat
nothing, about them personally. I don't have
to accept their public teachings when they are not in
line with the clear teaching of God's Word.
To say that I personally denigrate these men is a
LIE
An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you
research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al?
You are reading with the help of the powers of
darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an
unfounded and evil accusation.
No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple
statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on
and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing.
Oh, here is one I missed,
1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to
be unclear rather than plain Lance
2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those
who walk after the Spirit understand God's Word.
3. This accusation is uncalled for Lance
because what I addressed was personal accusations and this is what you
are
doing right
here. Obviously you didn't understand what I was addressing ... Oh
well! What's new....
JUDY:Am I being unclear? (I often am).
Let me take another run at it. On those
occasions in which you indicate that you've CORRECTLY APPREHENDED THE
MEANING OF GOD'S WORD(s) on given issue, do you not implicitly or
explictly indicate that the one(s) with whom you are speaking do
not? Would you have genuine
difficulty if recalling many such instances over the last 6
months?
What then, am I attempting to say? YOU DO
THAT WHICH WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES YOU. Thus, on occasion(s) THAT
WHICH YOU DO WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES SOME ON TT IN EXACTLY THE SAME
FASHION.
Do you understand?
Do you agree with this assessment?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 14, 2005
08:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TT
Double Standard
No Lance, I wouldn't acknowledge this to be
the case because everything that is spoken on TT is not the
Word of God, and not everything I
write is the Word of God because that would have to include
opinion at
times along with personal stories. So
what is the point you are trying to make here? Is it good to
be calling one
another hypocrites and disrespecting the
Moderator? Where do you think this kind
of attitude leads??
When you describe that which you say
as THE TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD Judy, while that spoken by another
as OTHER THAN the truth of the word of god, Judy then, you are
doing the very thing that you speak of as 'both discouraging and
wearying'. Would you not acknowledge this to be the
case?
We should make accusing each
other personally a matter to be discussed
offline.
I find these constant
accusations to be both discouraging and wearying - are we
interested in Truth or not? Why give the enemy a platform to tear each
other down.
DAVEH: I don't think you understand the
nature of my posts, Perry. I'm not talking about your
sexual experiences. I'm talking about Christian hypocrisy and the double standard as
practiced on TT. Is the double standard on TT not
a fair topic? Why should I have to discuss that
matter offline? Is this not relevant to all TTers,
Perry?
I find it very telling that
you make false accusations against
me.......
you suggest I might have some knowledge of
Izzy's sexual experiences,
.........which I did not
do. Go back and read my exact words if you don't believe
me. If you can't find them, I'll gladly provide them and
you can see for yourself that you are again accusing me of
something I did not do.
you suggest that saying "one
of Joseph Smiths spiritual wives" might have some sexual
connotation,
..........That has been suggested
before on TT by other TTers, and the moderator did nothing to
discourage such comments. Now you want to ban me from
posting something other TTers can post with no
retribution. This is simply another example of a double
standard.
you try to spin Dean up by suggesting he
gets "excited" by sexual references.
.........I
merely stated the truth about Deans sensitivity to such
things. This was not an ad-hom attack. Is the
truth now a problem on TT? People have said a lot
more vile things about me with no condemnation by the
moderator. Why the double standard now,
Perry?
these amount to false
accusations,
DAVEH: How can that
possibly be a false accusation if it is true,
Perry? If anything, it is you who is making
false accusations about me in this matter.
Once again....a TT double standard.
the
intentions of spinning Dean up on a banned
topic
DAVEH: You are absolutely
wrong again, Perry. You simply fail to understand the
nature of my posts. My intentions are not to spin up
Dean at all. It is you who I am trying to
enlighten as to the Christian hypocrisy involving the double
standard practiced on TT with regard to Mormons. Until
you as the moderator recognize it, why should I
discontinue pointing it out every time it occurs? Is not
the TT double standard an acceptable discussion
topic?
Charles Perry Locke
wrote:
Dave, you suggest I might have some knowledge
of Izzy's sexual experiences, then you suggest that
saying "one of Joseph Smiths spiritual wives" might have
some sexual connotation, then you try to spin
Dean up by suggesting he gets "excited" by sexual
references. These amount to false
accusations, with the intentions of spinning
Dean up on a banned topic. Any more posts from you
containing sexual references and I will have to take you off
the forum until you agree not to do so. Take any issues you
have up with me, offline, at this address, not on the forum.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator comment **
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:29:32 -0800
*
Please try to /refrain /from making sexual references,
especially /false accuastions/.*
DAVEH: Let's see if I understand this,
Perry. Recently I asked some questions that were no
more sexually oriented than what you commonly make, Dean
then claimed foul......and you banned further discussion
based on the /perception /you and Dean had about what
those comments might have implied.
Now you have made a comment that can be perceived to be
sexually charged..........
*If lucky, you may
become one of his many spirit wives! *
..........and you don't want to recognize the
double standard? It is interesting that when you or
other TTers make any kind of denigrating remarks toward
LDS theology with sexual implications, nothing is
considered off limits. When I point out this obvious
double standard, I am cautioned by the moderator to
/refrain /from bringing the discussion to the TT table
under the guise of making/ false accusations/. It
must be convenient to have a moderator who can see non-LDS
posters through one non-judgmental eye, and perceive a
completely different perspective of LDS posters through
the other, more critical eye. I suppose if one has
an ax to grind against LDS theology, and is not
embarrassed to publicly admit such....then it should not
surprise anybody to find that person practicing a double
standard. The curious part about this is that it
happens on a forum called /TruthTalk/, where /truth /is
presupposed to be the dominating factor, yet it seems to
be suppressed when it comes to recognizing the Christian
hypocrisy found here.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
* Please try
to /refrain /from making sexual references, especially
/false accuastions/.* This is not the forum for that? I
am sure there are many discussion forums about sex if
that type of discussion interests you.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Perry's Sexually Suggestive
Comments
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:07:35 -0800
**If lucky, you may become one of his many
spirit wives! **
DAVEH: I wonder
if Dean is going to rebuke you for making such
sexually suggestive comments, Perry! If
not, will we then have another example of hypocritical
Christianity in TT?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Just be sure you
remember your secret password and secret handshake
so Joseph Smith will allow you entrance into heaven.
*If lucky, you may become one of his many spirit
wives! *
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Signing off...
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:19:35 EST
I guess I never got to know you,
Christine--but hope to meet you in the
great
beyond--you may be required to testify at the Bar
of God as to what you
have seen and heard on
TT--
Blainerb
In a message dated
12/11/2005 11:24:52 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I am signing off. I have
gotten sucked into the world of TT, and I think it
would be beneficial to my GPA to bid
adeiu. Thanks for all the discussions. I
have learned a great deal. May the Lord
bless you and keep you all.
It would
be cool to meet you all in real life some day. But
maybe not all in
the same room. I wonder
how that would turn out... :-)
-Christine Miller
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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