The scripture says
his sweat was as
You say
he bled from every pore
Church Manual says:
"The Savior atoned for our sins by suffering in Gethsemane and by giving his life on the cross. It is impossible for us to fully understand how he suffered for all of our sins. In the Garden of Gethsemane, the weight of our sins caused him to feel such agony and heartbreak that be bled from every pore (see D&C 19:18-19). Later, as he hung upon the cross, Jesus suffered painful death by one of the most cruel methods known to man," (Gospel Principles, Corporation of
the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1979, pg. 66, emphasis mine).
AND SHRINK?
D&C 19 Therefore I command you to repentrepent, lest I smite you by the rod of my mouth, and by my wrath, and by my anger, and your sufferings be sorehow sore you know not, how exquisite you know not, yea, how hard to bear you know not. For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spiritand would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrinkNevertheless, glory be to the Father, and I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men.
Emphasizing these unconditional gifts arising out of Christ's atoning sacrifice, Latter-day Saints believe that other aspects of Christ's gift are conditional upon obedience and diligence in keeping God's commandments.
To meet the demands of the Atonement, the sinless
Christ went first into the Garden of Gethsemane, there to bear the spiritual agony of soul only he could bear. He "began to be sorrowful and very heavy," saying to his three chief disciples, "My soul is exceeding sorrowful, unto death" (Mark 14:34). Leaving them to keep watch, he went further into the garden, where he would suffer "the pains of all men, yea, the pains of every living creature, both men, women, and children, who belong to the family of Adam" (2 Ne. 9:21). There he "struggled and groaned under a burden such as no other being who has lived on earth might even conceive as possible" (JC, p. 613).
Thus, Latter-day Saints teach that Christ "descended below all things"including every kind of sickness, infirmity, and dark despair experienced by every mortal beingin order that he might "comprehend all things, that he might be in all and through all things, the light of truth" (D&C 88:6). This
spiritual anguish of plumbing the depths of human suffering and sorrow was experienced primarily in the Garden of Gethsemane. It was there that he was "in an agony" and "prayed more earnestly." It was there that his sweat was "as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground" (Luke 22:44) for he bled "at every pore" (D&C 19:18).
Jesus Christ did not ATONE for our sins by suffering in the Garden
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You force your Interpretation into the Plain meaning of the scriptures
DAVEH: How does my perspective on this force an interpretation any more than your perspective forces an interpretation that is consistent with your traditions, Kevin?
Do you believe he did not sweat drops of blood while in the Garden of Gethsemane? I thought that was an accepted understanding by most Christians....am I incorrect assuming such?
Kevin Deegan wrote:considering it pained our Lord so much that he bled from every poreYou force your Interpretation into the Plain meaning of the scripturesLU 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Tel him about the PRICE paid in the Garden Dave.
DAVEH: It does seem to be a big one, considering it pained our Lord so much that he bled from every pore. Do you disagree, Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:Te l him about the PRICE paid in the Garden Dave.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The cross, to the Christian, is a reminder of the tremendous price that Jesus paid
DAVEH: Which price is torturous pain, suffering and death. That is exactly what the cross represents, is that not correct Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Blaine, you seem to be missing a fine point here. Christians do not use crosses as a symbol of Jesus, like mormons do with stars and planets. The cross, to the Christian, is a reminder of the tremendous price that Jesus paid for our sins. BIG difference.
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