Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

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Judy  -- regarding being born again:  do you think this is something tht happens to a person from outside the person?  Or, is new birth the experience we have when

our person is aligned with the God within?   

 

jd

 

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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OR JUDY...YOU WILL!! When that which you say that God means, through always and only selecting (YOUR choices) citations appropo to the issue at hand) and that which God means are univocal (of one meaning) then, each of us (yes, including me) will simply reply AMEN JUDY/GOD!l

 

I, and I trust all other TT participants, would acknowledge that the above is SOMETIMES the case. You appear to believe that this is ALWAYS the case.

 

IFF 'they' (John, Bill, "G'") read this post then, I should appreciate having them say this in their own words and, once and for all, clarify this issue so that we might move on.

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From: Judy Taylor

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Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: December 16, 2005 07:13

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud

 

Well Lance, the only alternative I see is to use the verses in Romans that you like and interpret them to fit your

extra Biblical doctrine - then cut the rest out.  Facts are "You must be born again" to inherit God's Kingdom.

If you don't think that what I wrote is God's Word then you will need to read your Bible some more Lance.

 

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:36:21 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

This (the citations below) are Judy's choices oF Scriptures which elucidate Judy's apprehension of what God has to say about these matters. UNLESS YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you?) THEN, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THUS. This response is to your saying 'AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT IT'. ATY Judy! (According to you, Judy!)

From: Judy Taylor

 

JD

And so it is,  that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at

work within him  both to will and to accomplish His pleasure.   It is all about God.   We can either attach ourselves

to this reality and inherit life or we can refuse the only reality that is and die.   What a choice !!

 

We have no power to attach ourselves to anything JD, we can only come to Christ one way and this is by being

drawn by the Father through the Spirit by the Word and it is the "engrafted Word" which is able to save the soul

as we choose to walk in it. 

 

In Romans 1:18,19 - Yes men can know by the creation that there is a God, but when they don't glorify Him

as God and hold the truth in unrighteousness - their foolish hearts are darkened.  So where would you get the

idea that God is at work in those who have never surrendered to Christ?  These people have a different spirit

at work in them (See Ephesians 2:1,2) which is  the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience.

At least this is what God says about it.

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)