On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious,  this is my point as well. 
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said. 
 
Big IF JD. I don't read Terri's comment in a positive way, I think he is addressing something else.
 
When I write something like that,  it is me thinking out loud, really !!  I am reading scripture, looking up stuff,  going over and over my post   --  LETTING GOD WORK IN ME as I try to come to a knowledge of the faith that lies within.   I don't write so that I can share  --  I write for me, in these instances. 
 
Oh!  Then why do you send it to the TT List? 
 
Last night, for the first time,  I came to a realization of just how connected the gospel is to the firstfruit of creation and everything that follows  ----.without becoming a pantheist !! 
 
Are you calling Israel the firstfruit of Creation?
 
I would suggest to my friends that they do the same.   Writing out of an apologetical concern can be a good thing.   But writing and comparing notes of others who are still involved in the search for truth as revealed in the written word is, in my opinion, even better.   We are not involved in such activity often enough.
 
jd
 
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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.
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Judy Taylor wrote:

 

JD
And so it is,  that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him  both to will and to accomplish His pleasure.   It is all about God.   We can either attach ourselves
to this reality and inherit life or we can refuse the only reality that is and die.   What a choice !!
 
We have no power to attach ourselves to anything JD, we can only come to Christ one way and this is by being
drawn by the Father through the Spirit by the Word and it is the "engrafted Word" which is able to save the soul
as we choose to walk in it. 
 
In Romans 1:18,19 - Yes men can know by the creation that there is a God, but when they don't glorify Him
as God and hold the truth in unrighteousness - their foolish hearts are darkened.  So where would you get the
idea that God is at work in those who have never surrendered to Christ?  These people have a different spirit
at work in them (See Ephesians 2:1,2) which is  the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience.
At least this is what God says about it.

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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