Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides

[Judy Taylor]

 

 

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:29 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Huh?   I can't pray for what I don't understand because my prayer tongue is English??  !!    

The idea JD is that it is an exercise in faith because we don't know how to pray as we should so the Spirit
intercedes for us before the throne of grace - through us - by using our own voice to petition also it edifies.  

 

Huh ???

 

My wife prays in tongues.  

 

I hope she didn't receive her gift while she was a Mormon because these are false tongues.   "

 

Tongues" come from God and have nothing to do with the "right church."

 

I said nothing about "churches" tongues are a spiritual gift and the wrong spirit ministers a false gift.  Satan has a counterfeit for every gift from Jesus that is real.

 

I have been around the experience for years and years, David.  I am just as much in the spirit as my wife during worship times.

 

How can you know this?  

 

Because I have this Spirit, Judy.  And, it has been confirmed to me 100's of times in my 48 years as a disciple.

 

The Holy Spirit is not in the business of revealing personal information about others except when spiritual discernment is needed and ministry is involved. He always functions on a "need to know" basis and                                                       

 

All comparing ourselves amongst ourselves does is prove we are not wise (though most of us

have done this at some time or other).  (See 2 Corinthians 10:12)

 

Huh ??

 

This is the way of the world; God's ways are the complete opposite. He will often use the least and He

tells us to honor the least amongst us.

 

Time after time I have simply knelt during worship or stood with raised hands and just let it all soak in .    At those times,  I am fully aware of the promised intervention of the Spirit on my behalf.   God speakst to me, David, just as certainly as He does to you and, who knows, maybe more often.   

 

There are no second class "believers" JD but still what you describe is not the same as what David is speaking about. 

 

We are talking about the same thing AND apparently you and I are not  (who said anything about second class believers  -- certainly not me). 

 

You didn't say it JD but sense a note of it in some of what you write; fear of being inferior or something

like that which is often overcompensated for with bluster and hype. .

 

But the experience of Spirit filling  (read: spirit baptism) is not the center of my "new nature."  The Lordship

of Christ is.  The Lord has revealed to me the vanity of placing too much stock in "spiritual knowledge."  

 

There is vanity in the wrong kind of "spiritual knowledge" (the occult kind) but I have a hard time accepting that the Lord would be counselling against Himself.  

 

Since I did not suggest such,  I have no idea what you are talking about.  I am going to guess that neither

do you.  

You didn't say it in those words JD but you do claim the Lord made the above revelation to you; so you

are against too much "spiritual knowledge" and follow after men who study and write big books about a

dead letter.

 

"The Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty"  judyt   

 

No kidding.   The end of legalism as we know it is found in these words of truth !!

 

That verse refers to freedom from spiritual bondage - not antinomianism... as you imply above.

 

 

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)