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How come Hitler made a concordat with Pope Pius if what
is written below is so? I've read that Hitler admired
the structure of the rcc and that he organized his SS
along the same lines. Also the rcc underground network
helped many notorious Nazis escape to South America and
other places.
thus, Bro,
Nazis ain't ProtestantDAVEH: Your
logic is flawed on this, G, and you seem to be stuck in a box trying
desperately to separate Nazism from Protestantism......... When the
Nazis seized power in 1933, the Protestant churches had suffered a decade of
steep numerical decline; in that year, however, they began to gain members.
For millions of German Protestants the Nazi regime signaled a revival of
Christianity after the decadent, morally uncertain years of the Weimar
Republic. Many Protestants, including pastors, became keen Nazi party
members and officials. When, after 1937, relationships between the
Protestant churches aim the Nazi state deteriorated and churchmen were
dismissed from official posts, there was much disappointed
protest.
Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler
said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.)
Principally this was because Catholicism was internationalist in outlook,
while German Protestants were for the most part fiercely nationalist. But the
Nazis's detestation of Rome derived also from their skewed notions about the
papacy. The Vatican was, of course, a foreign power, which disqualified it
from having any right of influence in insurgent Germany. It was also regarded
as the culpable party in a centuries-old perversion of Christianity:
materialist, luxurious and, above all, Jewish. (Hitler asserted a belief that
all the most notorious Renaissance popes were Jews, the front men for the
great Jewish conspiracy to achieve world
domination.).......Interestingly, the paganists
were a minority, much derided by Hitler and Goebbels, who remained nominal
Catholics and paid church taxes to the end........the author
claims Hitler was a lip serving Catholic, but yet is seems obvious that his
heart was with Protestantism. The above site can be found
at....... http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_16_121/ai_n8702389........Pictures
you referred to can be found at....... http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm.......As
you run down through the pictures, please note the crosses on the graves of
the Nazis. From what I've heard promoted on TT a short time ago, those
crosses represent Christians. (I suggested they represented people who
had died.) Now, if you read further down the
page....... Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement
13
Nov.1933
A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant
branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled
Christian doctrine with German nationalism and
antisemitism...........and........ Ludwig Müller,
a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected to the position of
Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite regional Protestant churches
under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice separation of Church &
State.
Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933........you will
notice a picture of LM. A few pictures later, you can see LM
performing the Christian wedding of Goring, with Hitler as his best
man. Shortly thereafter, you can imagine the
influence Catholicism had on Hitler in his youth that failed to stick from his
Mother's cemetery picture........ Hitler's mother's
grave
Klara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler
according to her beliefs.
Hitler felt grief-stricken over his mother's
death. She was buried alongside her husband in Linz, Austria. German soldiers
here pay their respects to the grave in 1938.
Note the Christian cross
on her monument.........so it becomes obvious that Hitler had
roots in Catholicism that were merely catered to for political purposes.
He seemed much more intent on focusing on Protestantism.
As you get closer to the bottom, you can see
pictures that reflect........ Deutsche Christen (German
Christians)
The Deutsche Christen (DC) became the voice of Nazi ideology
within the Evangelical Church (the Religious Right of their day) and approved
by Hitler. They proposed a church "Aryan paragraph" to prevent "non-Aryans"
from becoming ministers or religious teachers. Most church leaders solidly
supported the "Judenmission." Only a very few number of Christians opposed
Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized
by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of
Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders shows
the danger of mixing religion with government.
The photo on the
left shows Christian worshippers of Christ and Nazism on the march in front of
the Berlin Cathedral. SS guards stand at attention. The head of the march
shows members in party and SA uniforms while pastors follow in the rear.
Note the flags with the Christian cross with the swastika in
the middle (also described as the Double Cross)..........Rather
interesting, isn't it G! Kinda puts to rest your theory that Nazis ain't
Protestant. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
even untwisted
history can't fathom THAT, let alone WHY Hitler could form a formal
state church/alliance with the German Catholics under the regime of
Pius XII; regardless, there's a v famous, then contemporary pic of Pius
XIIs Reichs-Bishop among Nazis saluting Hitler at a cathedral in
downtown Berlin c.1939--thus, Bro, Nazis ain't
Protestant
DAVEH: Why should he bother, when Protestantism fulfilled his
needs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to[o] bad
he didn't pursue that option
DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I
suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a
Protestant. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..Naziism started in the German labor
movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was
first a labor/er's philosopher-politico
yes,
its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like
Naziism
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......Of course Mormanizm is right.......that's
why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left
of right...
..ftr, Mormanizm is
right:)
..whoever intelligently disagrees is
left
..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the
right of the right
in context, the essence of current
compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth:
"..I have been wasting my time throwing
pearls before swine here." -- Izzy
myth (someone manufactured this
explanation--Izzy cited other mythological
reasons)
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller"
< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes: <<Someone breaks the ad hominem rule
..and Izzy is so upset by it that she wants to
leave the list,>>
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