John, there is a higher level division amongst the mormons...they call
everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile". "Protestants" are just one
detestable group of pagans in the group of "gentiles".
Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with a pagan
group like the "protestants". Their own founder claimed the mormon god told
him that he should join NO denomination, and that ALL denominations were an
abomination. As you have stated, even though most on this group do not
consider themselves "protestants" per se and have identified themselves as
being members of the church Jesus started, being members of the body of
Christ, he insists on calling us "protestants" as a disrespect. If he
respected us he would call us what we are...members of the body of Christ.
Christians.
Perry
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +0000
David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word "protestant?" Do
you understand that I do not like that characterization? Do you
understand that it is gross sectarianism that insists on the separation
between RCC and those who reject papel authority? Do you know that there
are millions of Catholics who do not accept Papel authority? Do you
understand that I have a right to expect not to be branded with a Mormon
slang word used by them to describe all who are not of "the [Mormon]
truth?" "protestant" is another way of saying "unbeleiver" or "pagan." We
are not fooling anyone, here. I have seen their chat rooms !! Do
you understand that when DH uses this word, he necessarily attaches to it
ideas that are definitely not of my approveal?
This should be an easily resolved issue. But it is not. The Mormons
insist on using this word because that is what their buds do, in private.
All Mormons I know use this word and in the same manner as Blaine and DH.
Get off the pot and smell the roses. You are not scoring any points with
the Mormons in this.
jd
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John, do you understand the difference between a historical perspective and
a philosophical one?
Let's consider the philosophical concern a little more closely. A
Protestant is defined broadly as a member of a church that rejects papal
authority.
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Prot·es·tant
[noun]
member of church rejecting papal authority: a member or adherent of any
denomination of the Western Christian church that rejects papal authority
and some fundamental Roman Catholic doctrines, and believes in
justification by faith.
Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft
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Aimee rejected papal authority. Do you, John, accept or reject the
authority of the pope as being the vicar of Christ?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for some 32
years. My denominational background has nothing to do with my theology at
this late date. Secindly, Aimee Semple McPherson is the founder of Four
Square. She was not responding to a negative RCC consideration.
Certainly, I am no protestant and I have made the reasoning for this claim
quite clear. Mean versus green are the only considrations I can see for
the continued use of the word and the continued need to attach me to the
Churches of Christ.
jd
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,
DAVEH: I did remember that, DavidM. Even so, as I remember, WIKI
painted the CofC as Protestant as well.
However, in a recent discussion with you, I thought I understood John
to say that he currently is worshiping with a 4Sq group, which to me
indicates an association with a Protestant relationship, as I think WIKI
defined them.
David Miller wrote:
DaveH wrote:
If I remember correctly, you are a 4Sq
adherent, which as I understand it is a branch
of Protestantism.
John wrote:
That denomination did not come from the
Portestant response to RCC theology.
If I am remembering correctly, the historical root to the Four Square
church
is Baptist. Aimee Semple McPherson at one time claimed to have been
ordained by the Baptists. I think later on she was ordained by the
Assemblies of God, but later disowned those credentials.
John wrote:
I see "protestant" as clubhouse name for
those who are apostate. That is how I
believe the term is used. I have seen posts
from Mormon to Mormon that gives me this
opinion.
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,
which is another restoration movement with historial roots similar to
Mormonism. Their attitude toward other "Protestants" is not unlike
Mormons.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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