We 'fill out' words, ceremonies, symbols and, traditions with MEANING. In
one sense only those who live/experience that reality fully understand that
particular MEANING. In quite another sense, as I discovered 25 years ago,
one can understand the MEANING invested in words, ceremonies, symbols and
traditions that are not one's own. (i.e. Mormonism) In yet another, and
quite important sense, one dare not understand some of these. Example:IFF
the spirit of freemasonry is also the spirit of mormonism then, one would
wish to maintain 'arm's length' distance from that which is intrinsically
'occupied' by such 'spirits'.
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From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: January 03, 2006 09:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach
his message?
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:21:18 -0800
* "Protestants" are just one detestable group of pagans in the group of
"gentiles". *
*
Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with a pagan
group like the "protestants".*
DAVEH: What's with the pagan stuff, Perry. That sounds like something
you guys have called me, but FTR......I do not want any TTers to think for
one second that I consider any of you folks to be pagans.
As for your mention of.........
/*they call everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile"*/
..........You really do not understand the nature of what that means, so
you might want to be careful about pretending to know something you don't.
It reflects poorly on your image, Perry.
*he insists on calling us "protestants" as a disrespect.*
DAVEH: Nonsense. I will give you the same advice I gave John.....If you
can't quote me exactly, then don't pretend to quote me at all by putting
words in my mouth. FTR........I have much more respect for Protestants
than you will ever imagine, and as such I certainly have more respect for
Protestants than I do for those who misquote me.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
John, there is a higher level division amongst the mormons.../*they
call everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile"*/.* "Protestants" are just
one detestable group of pagans in the group of "gentiles". *
*
Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with a
pagan group like the "protestants".* Their own founder claimed the
mormon god told him that he should join NO denomination, and that ALL
denominations were an abomination. As you have stated, even though most
on this group do not consider themselves "protestants" per se and have
identified themselves as being members of the church Jesus started,
being members of the body of Christ, *he insists on calling us
"protestants" as a disrespect.* If he respected us he would call us what
we are...members of the body of Christ. Christians.
Perry
David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word "protestant?" Do
you understand that I do not like that characterization? Do you
understand that it is gross sectarianism that insists on the separation
between RCC and those who reject papel authority? Do you know that
there are millions of Catholics who do not accept Papel authority? Do
you understand that I have a right to expect not to be branded with a
Mormon slang word used by them to describe all who are not of "the
[Mormon] truth?" "protestant" is another way of saying "unbeleiver" or
"pagan." We are not fooling anyone, here. I have seen their chat rooms
!! Do you understand that when DH uses this word, he
necessarily attaches to it ideas that are definitely not of my
approveal?
This should be an easily resolved issue. But it is not. The Mormons
insist on using this word because that is what their buds do, in
private. All Mormons I know use this word and in the same manner as
Blaine and DH. Get off the pot and smell the roses. You are not
scoring any points with the Mormons in this.
jd
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John, do you understand the difference between a historical perspective
and a philosophical one?
Let's consider the philosophical concern a little more closely. A
Protestant is defined broadly as a member of a church that rejects papal
authority.
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Prot·es·tant
[noun]
member of church rejecting papal authority: a member or adherent of any
denomination of the Western Christian church that rejects papal
authority and some fundamental Roman Catholic doctrines, and believes in
justification by faith.
Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft
Corporation. All rights reserved.
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Aimee rejected papal authority. Do you, John, accept or reject the
authority of the pope as being the vicar of Christ?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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