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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:54:08 +0000
Unfortunately, I do agree. Now that I think of it, you are right in
your statement of the use of the word "gentile."
do you know of any websites , by Mormons , that give an outline of the
Church suitable for comparison of the preApostate First Church?
jd
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From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> John, there is a higher level division amongst the mormons...they call
> everyone who is not a mormon a "gentile". "Protestants" are just one
> detestable group of pagans in the group of "gentiles".
>
> Doesn't it seem interesting that DaveH finds such intrique with a pagan
> group like the "protestants". Their own founder claimed the mormon god
told
> him that he should join NO denomination, and that ALL denominations were
an
> abomination. As you have stated, even though most on this group do not
> consider themselves "protestants" per se and have identified themselves
as
> being members of the church Jesus started, being members of the body of
> Christ, he insists on calling us "protestants" as a disrespect. If he
> respected us he would call us what we are...members of the body of
Christ.
> Christians.
>
> Perry
>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org,
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
> >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +0000
> >
> >David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word "protestant?" Do
> >you understand that I do not like that characterization? Do you
> >understand that it is gross sectarianism that insists on the separation
> >between RCC and those who reject papel authority? Do you know that
there
> >are millions of Catholics who do not accept Papel authority? Do you
> >understand that I have a right to expect not to be branded with a
Mormon
> >slang word used by them to describe all who are not of "the [Mormon]
> >truth?" "protestant" is another way of saying "unbeleiver" or "pagan."
We
> >are not fooling anyone, here. I have seen their chat rooms !! Do
> >you understand that when DH uses this word, he necessarily attaches to
it
> >ideas that are definitely not of my approveal?
> >
> >This should be an easily resolved issue. But it is not. The Mormons
> >insist on using this word because that is what their buds do, in
private.
> >All Mormons I know use this word and in the same manner as Blaine and
DH.
> >Get off the pot and smell the roses. You are not scoring any points
with
> >the Mormons in this.
> >
> >jd
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >From: "David Miller"
> >
> >John, do you understand the difference between a historical perspective
and
> >a philosophical one?
> >
> >Let's consider the philosophical concern a little more closely. A
> >Protestant is defined broadly as a member of a church that rejects
papal
> >authority.
> >
> >-------------
> >Prot·es·tant
> >[noun]
> >member of church rejecting papal authority: a member or adherent of any
> >denomination of the Western Christian church that rejects papal
authority
> >and some fundamental Roman Catholic doctrines, and believes in
> >justification by faith.
> >
> >Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft
> >Corporation. All rights reserved.
> >-------------
> >
> >Aimee rejected papal authority. Do you, John, accept or reject the
> >authority of the pope as being the vicar of Christ?
> >
> >Peace be with you.
> >David Miller.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:08 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
> >
> >
> >Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for some 32
> >years. My denominational background has nothing to do with my theology
at
> >this late date. Secindly, Aimee Semple McPherson is the founder of Four
> >Square. She was not responding to a negative RCC consideration.
> >Certainly, I am no protestant and I have made the reasoning for this
claim
> >quite clear. Mean versus green are the only considrations I can see for
> >the continued use of the word and the continued need to attach me to
the
> >Churches of Christ.
> >
> >jd
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >From: Dave
> >
> >DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of
Christ,
> >
> >
> >DAVEH: I did remember that, DavidM. Even so, as I remember, WIKI
> >painted the CofC as Protestant as well.
> >
> > However, in a recent discussion with you, I thought I understood John
> >to say that he currently is worshiping with a 4Sq group, which to me
> >indicates an association with a Protestant relationship, as I think
WIKI
> >defined them.
> >
> >David Miller wrote:
> >DaveH wrote:
> >
> >If I remember correctly, you are a 4Sq
> >adherent, which as I understand it is a branch
> >of Protestantism.
> >
> >
> >John wrote:
> >
> > That denomination did not come from the
> >Portestant response to RCC theology.
> >
> >
> >If I am remembering correctly, the historical root to the Four Square
> >church
> >is Baptist. Aimee Semple McPherson at one time claimed to have been
> >ordained by the Baptists. I think later on she was ordained by the
> >Assemblies of God, but later disowned those credentials.
> >
> >John wrote:
> >
> >I see "protestant" as clubhouse name for
> >those who are apostate. That is how I
> >believe the term is used. I have seen posts
> >from Mormon to Mormon that gives me this
> >opinion.
> >
> >
> >DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of
Christ,
> >which is another restoration movement with historial roots similar to
> >Mormonism. Their attitude toward other "Protestants" is not unlike
> >Mormons.
> >
> >Peace be with you.
> >David Miller.
> >
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