Benny Hinn, another 'inspired' teacher/evangelist, once
said that each of
the Father, Son and Spirit was a trinity
and thus, nine Gods. He also finds
himself clever in the
questions he puts forward to his hearers.
> The problem with the word "Trinity" is that it assume
Three. What do you
> do
> with texts that
speak about the Seven Spirits of God?
>
> David
Miller.
>
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> Subject: Re: Fw:
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>
> I do not agree.
"Trinity" is as much a translation of the concept of
>
"divine essence" as is "godhead" but for theological and
contextual
> reasons. Call it philosophy if you
will. The inclusion of "trinity" is a
> sound choice
if it , in fact, arises from a point of truth.
Equivalency
> is a word that figures into my
discussion. I am sure you unders tand the
>
implication.
>
> jd
>
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> From: "David Miller"
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>>
The word "Trinity" is not a translation, nor is it a
transliteration. It
>> is
>> a word of
philosophers, a word constructed by theologians, and it is
a
>> philosophically loaded word. The various words of
the Greek language that
>> have been translated
"Godhead" have at their root the word "theos," and
>>
therefore, "Godhead" is an appropriate translation whereas
"Trinity" is
>> not.
>> The root for "three"
is not found in the Greek language for this
word.
>>
>> David
Miller
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:08 PM
>> Subject:
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Lance and "biblical
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>>
>>
>> Your response has
nothing to do with my comments, near as I can see.
>>
My point is this: every English word in our bible is "added " to
the
>> original text. so you like godhead" and I like
"trinity." They are both
>> translations of the
orgiinal word and/or thought.
>>
>>
jd
>>
>> -------------- Original message
--------------
>> From: Judy
Taylor
>>
>> Here we go again - And who is the
one who denied staking everything on
>> translational
and Gk
>> arguments - very, very, recently?.
judyt
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:54:47 +0000
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writes:
>>
>> Here is an approximation of the
[NT] biblical language"
>>
>& gt; gar nomoz
tou pneumatoz thz swhzev Cristy
>>
>> All
other words [in [English] translation] are
"non-biblical."
>> "Incarnate" is no less a "biblical
word" than "in the flesh" -- nor
>> "trinity " in the
place of "Godhead."
>>
>> Our translations are
copies of the original tex t (as best as we can
>>
reconstruct that text) . The Latin Vulgate has the same place in
biblical
>> history in terms of type and quality as
does the more literal of the
>> English
>>
translations.
>>
>> To argue without end over
"Godhead" verses "Trinity" is argue about
>> nothing. I
have just as much authority to read "trinity" as someone
has
>> to read "godhead" or "divine
nature."
>>
>>
jd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
-------------- Original message --------------
>>
From: "Lance Muir"
>>
>> On employing
'non-biblical' terminology when speaking of WHO J esus
is:
>> Insofar as the language one chooses accurately
reflects the subject under
>> discussion it may be
viewed as legitimate, helpful and, even
necessary.
>>
>> May I ask that anyone
responding to the above take the time to outline
>>
their
>> own position on this.
>> -----
Original Message -----
>> From: Judy
Taylor
>> To:
[email protected]>>
Cc:
[email protected]>>
Sent: January 14, 2006 08:53
>> Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST
IS
>> NOT
>>
DIVINE
>>
>>
>> I don't know about
all that Lance. What exact part of him are you
calling
>> "his humanity" Is it the body or the
soul?
>> Also what exactly is a "trinitarian nature?"
These are brand new terms
>> someone has come up with.
Could this
> ;> be called "adding to the Word of
Truth?"
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:39:32
-0500 "Lance Muir"
>> writes:
>> Judy, rightly
IMO, has oft spoken of the disconnect that may take
place
>> between theologizing and godliness.
Conversely, as illustrated in this
>> post
>>
by Bill, a more thoroughgoing teaching, along with the
apprehension, of
>> the
>> Trinitarian Nature
of God ought to issue in that which Jt speaks of.
>>
(i.e.
>> godliness)
>>
>>
>>
----- Original Messag e -----
>> From:
Taylor
>> To:
[email protected]>>
Sent: January 14, 2006 07:18
>> Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity
>>
>>
>>
BillT wrote: The oneness of God is therefore not a number nearly
so much
>> as
>> it is a unity: the
unifying
>> love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son, and
H oly Spirit.
>>
>>
>> DAVEH
responds: Any room for individuals in that
equation?..........The
>> oneness of God is
therefore........Father, Son, Holy Spirit &
Bill.
>>
>> Well, yes and no, DH. I am
included in that circle of love in the way
>>
that
>> Christ's humanity is included in that
relationship. But as the humanity
>> of
>>
Christ is not divine, neither am I divine. What I am is included
in the
>> humanity of the divine Christ and thus
included in the eternal fellowship
>> and community of
the Son with the Father in the Holy Spirit. And
because
>> of
>> the inseparable union of the
person of Christ, his humanity with h is
>> divinity, I
will forever be included in the loving union of the
Trinity,
>> the
>> oneness of
God.
>>
>> Good question,
though,
>>
>> Bill
>> ----- Original
Message -----
>> From: Dave Hansen
>> To:
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 PM
>> Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity
>>
>>
>>
>>
.........Does that work in your theological
paradigm?
>>
>> Taylor wrote:
>>
Moreover, John, if God is love and God is also a singularity,
like many
>> people think of "one" in the statement
"God is one," then the greatest
>> human
>>
_expression_ of that love would be narcissism: extreme self love;
for that
>> would be to exemplify the love of God.
Instead, God is "one" -- and has
>> been
>>
from eternity -- precisely because of the other-centered love
which
>> exists
>> between the Father for the
Son and the Son for the Father in the Holy
>> Spirit.
The oneness of God is th erefore not a number nearly so much as
>> it
>> is
>> a unity: the
unifying
> ;> love of God in koinonia -- Father, Son,
and Holy Spirit.
>>
>> Good insight, Dude, I
mean Bish; you're on a roll.
>>
>>
Bill
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