Judy, Jesus did not come ONLY to redeem us spiritually, but physically as 
well.  Jesus redeemed the whole man, spirit, soul, and body.  The body is 
the last thing to experience that redemption, which will be realized in the 
resurrection.

The idea that what happened to Christ will happen to us is realized 
forcefully by acknowledging that he is indeed one of us.  He is not just our 
God.  He is our brother, born of the same flesh.

Consider Romans 6:5
"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall 
be also in the likeness of his resurrection."

The same analogy can be made of many things concerning Christ when we 
realize that he was a man just like us.

Consider the following passage:

Hebrews 12:3-4
(3) For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against 
himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
(4) Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

The idea that gives an instruction like this power and force is the concept 
that he was just like us.  When he resisted sin, he did not have an edge 
over us that was any different than what we have.  Therefore, even as he 
resisted sin to the shedding of his own blood, so too we can find strength 
to do the same.  We know this when we realize that he was made in the 
likeness of the same sinful flesh as we have, yet he resisted the 
temptations of that flesh and did not succomb to it.

Hebrews 2:11
(11) For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of 
one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Hebrews 2:14
(14) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he 
also himself likewise took part of the same

Hebrews 2:16-17
(16) For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him 
the seed of Abraham.
(17) Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his 
brethren

David Miller.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Judy Taylor
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE



From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Tell me why he (Jesus) HAD to be like US in every way?  Why couldn't he 
> have been
> like the first Adam before the fall, the one who was created?

If Jesus were only like the first Adam and not like the rest of us, then he 
could only
redeem those born of his own loins.  In order to redeem mankind, including 
Adam and
Eve and all of their descendants, he would have to become one of us.

Why?  What do loins have to do with spsiritual redemption and what it takes 
to redeem
mankind?  His salvation unlike the covering of bulls and goats is eternal 
because his
blood is the blood of the eternal Spirit. (Hebrews 9:14)

Judy wrote:
> Jesus was not exactly procreated like us since he had no human father so 
> that must
mess up your thesis at least a little.

Such does not bother the thesis of the humanity of Jesus one bit.  Only if 
you argue
that Jesus did not inherit genetic material from Mary would it be a problem. 
The Bible
gives every indication that Jesus was related to Mary, related to David, 
related to
Abraham, and related to Adam.

Yes I understand the genealogies are important and relevant or they wouldn't 
be there...
but I see their value as more spiritual than biolgical ie: Ishmael was a 
biolgical son
but Isaac the child of Promise.  I understand blessings and curses to come 
down
through families generationally in the spiritual sense even though there is 
a
biolgical dimension also.

David Miller. 

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