so there is no way that
this would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not
create us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen 1.26).
Yes they did created the
first Adam in their nature and character spiritually - which
"likeness"
Adam forfeited when
he chose to go with Eve
into disobedience by eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men
(including us) are born into this world by procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather
than the likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way to
regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to
become
conformed to the image of
the second Adam which is the sole purpose for His coming
and His willingness to
lay down His human life as a perfect sacrifice in our
place.
Laying aside the fact that you are
making much too much of Seth having been born in the image
of Adam (see Gen 9.6 and answer for me
what would be wrong, then, with killing someone who
was no longer created in God's
image, but in Adam's),
At the beginnign they
were created in God's image and now Noah who found grace is
starting
over even though it
didn't take too many generations for the whole of humanity (all but
8 ppl)
to be destroyed. I
don't believe God is interested in fellowshipping with a bunch of
devils.
Judy, I fail to understand why that
should even prevent Christ from being united in his person,
his humanness with his divinity.
I understand. It is
mixture; joining the holy with the profane which is something God
hates.
The only thing which could have severed
that union was the one thing which he did not do:
sin. Hence in his person, he was able
to undo that which had indeed produced schizophrenia
in the relationship between humanity
and God.
Tell me why he (Jesus)
HAD to be like US in every way? Why couldn't he have been like
the
first Adam before the
fall, the one who was created? Jesus was not exactly
procreated like
us since he had no human
father so that must mess up your thesis at least a
little.
And were he not like us in every way,
he could not have produced this reconciliation; for what
he would have done in a flesh unlike
our own would have had no bearing upon human flesh,
and we would therefore still be in
sin. Bill
Not so; all he had to do
was meet God's conditions which apparently involved passing
the
test that A&E failed
and he did that in the wilderness... right after his
baptism.
so there is no way
that this would be the same concept Bill.
Why is that, Judy? Did "they" not
create us in "their" likeness? (cf. Gen
1.26).
Yes they did created
the first Adam in their nature and character spiritually - which
"likeness"
Adam forfeited when
he chose to go with
Eve into disobedience by eating the wrong fruit.
Thereafter all men
(including us) are born into this world by procreation in the likeness of
the first Adam rather
than the likeness of God (Gen 5:3)
The only possible way
to regain the image of God lost by the first Adam is to
become
conformed to the
image of the second Adam which is the sole purpose for His
coming
and His willingness
to lay down His human life as a perfect sacrifice in our
place.
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Sent: Monday, January 16,
2006 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS
NOTDIVINE
OK - I'm asking Bill, what husband,
and what schism?
Oh, I thought you were married.
The bible says that you and your husband (if you had one)
were to become "one" flesh, in other words the two of you in
coming together would be united -- and not just physically,
I might add; it is the marriage "union" after all. The same
is true with God. The bible teaches that the Lord is "one"
and it uses the same word when saying this; hence there is a
oneness or unity within the nature of God, a coming together
of a plurality in union.
God is a Spirit
(Jn 4:24) so there is no way that this would be the same
concept Bill. Sure the Godhead are One and
united
in
Spirit.
And so, since you suggested
that if Christ be fully God and fully human there must be a
schism, I was just wondering about the schism you have with
your man. Why instead of schism aren't you united?
In marriage
between humans it is "one flesh" Bill
There would only be a schism
between the two natures of Christ if there were
disunity between the two.
The person of Christ had no
disunity; hence no schism. Bill
There would have
been disunity "big time" if he had a human nature - just
like us and was in fact wholly God ATST;
schizophrenic
would be the
right term. Also "Flesh and blood DO NOT inherit God's
Kingdom" Bill so what would be the purpose??
OK - I'm asking Bill, what
husband, and what schism?
And while you're at it,
will you explain your schism with your husband, too?
(If this needs
clarification, just ask)
Bill
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Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS
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Sent: 1/14/2006
1:07:17 PM
Subject: Re:
Fw: [TruthTalk] love and trinity THE HUMANITY OF
CHRIST IS NOTDIVINE
Dean,
I think this is where
"theology" gets itself tied in knots. This is what
JD has been accusing me of for so long.
How ironic that his
mentor Bill would write something like this. I
think Lance just repeated it to qualify
something.
So their Jesus must have a schism in his
personality (or nature). What about his saying
to Philip "If you have
seen me you have seen the Father" We
know he wasn't speaking of his physical body here;
so does God
The Father also have a
schismatic personality.
cd: Judy can you define your usage of
'schismatic'.
Well, yes
and no, DH. I am included in that circle
of love in the way that Christ's humanity is
included in that relationship. But as the humanity of Christ
is not divine, neither am I divine.
cd: Lance at this point- How
do you define
"Divine"?
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