and in that he was unlike us, as we do not have a divine nature,
cd: Here is where we differ- If we have the indwelling spirit guiding us and we allow the bit in our mouths-we will do and think divine thoughts-because of that Spirit.
The Holy Spirit indwelling us does not make us God in the way that Christ was God. In addition to being fully human, the person of Christ was also the second person of the Godhead; he was God. When we receive the Holy Spirit it is akin to the Holy Spirit coming upon Jesus at his baptism -- but that is not when he became divine; he was already God. The Holy Spirit ministered to his humanity, in the same way He ministers to our humanity. We are not divine; we are not God -- even with the indwelling Spirit of God.
cd: . . . Because of Him we can be Holy also "be ye Holy" is a command from Christ and I don't believe He mocked by commanding us to do something we are not able to do. Respectfully.
Actually, the literal translation would be "ye shall be Holy," which is an indicative and not an imperative (i.e., a command), which is to say, "But as he which hath called you is holy, ye shall be Holy ... because it is written, 'Ye shall be holy; for I am holy.'"
But I do not really even have an issue with that. No, certainly he was not mocked by that, and the reason he is not mocked is because he defeated sin on our behalf, so that with the Spirit's indwelling we can indeed become holy.
Bill
Cd: I think at this point that we should define the differences between Holy and Divine Bill. I ask for your patience-What do you see in the difference?
Divine , a. [L., a god.]
1. Pertaining to the true God; as the divine nature; divine perfections.
2. Pertaining to a heathen deity, or to false gods.
3. Partaking of the nature of God.
Half human, half divinedivine.
4. Proceeding from God; as divine judgments.
5. Godlike; heavenly; excellent in the highest degree; extraordinary; apparently above what is human. In this application the word admits of comparison; as a divined invention; a divine genius; the divinest mind.
A divine sentence is in the lips of the king. Prov 16.
6. Presageful; foreboding; prescient. [Not used.]
7. Appropriated to God, or celebrating his praise; as divine service; divine songs; divine worship.
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divine n.
1. A minister of the gospel; a priest; a clergyman.
The first divines of New England were surpassed by none in extensive erudition, personal sanctity, and diligence in the pastoral office.
2. A man skilled in divinity; a theologian; as a great
divine.
DDdIVINE
, v.t. [L.]
1. To foreknow; to foretell; to presage.
Darst thou divine
his downfall?
2. To deify. [Not in use.]
DDIVINE
,Divine v.i.
1. To use or practice divination.
2. To utter presages or prognostications.
The prophets thereof dinine
for money. Micah 3.
3. To have presages or forebodings.
Suggest but truth to my divining thoughts--
4. To guess or conjecture.
Could you divine
i what lovers bear.
Holy
HO'LY
, a.
1. Properly, whole, entire or perfect, in a moral sense. Hence, pure in heart, temper or dispositions; free from sin and sinful affections. Applied to the Supreme Being, holy signifies perfectly pure, immaculate and complete in moral character; and man is more or less holy, as his heart is more or less sanctified, or purified from evil dispositions. We call a man holy,when his heart is conformed in some degree to the image of God, and his life is regulated by the
divine precepts. Hence, holy is used as nearly synonymous with good, pious, godly.
Be ye holy; for I am holy. 1 Pet 1.
2. Hallowed; consecrated or set apart to a sacred use, or to the service or worship of God; a sense frequent in Scripture; as the holy sabbath; holy oil; holy vessels; a holy nation; the holy temple; a holy priesthood.
3. Proceeding from pious principles,or directed to pious purposes; as holy zeal.
4. Perfectly just and good; as the holy law of God.
5. Sacred; as a holy witness.
Holy of holies, in Scripture, the innermost apartment of the Jewish tabernacle or temple, where the ark was kept,and where no person entered, except the high priest, once a year.
Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit, the Holy
Spirit; the third person in the Trinity; the sanctifier of souls.
Holy war, a war undertaken to rescue the holy land, the ancient Judea, from the infidels; a crusade; an expedition carried on by christians against the Saracens in the eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth centuries; a war carried on in a most unholy manner.
