What makes you think that Jesus was in control of the timing of his own
death JD? Scripture teaches that the times and seasons are in
the hands of the Father. Are you now saying that Jesus is the
Father? Manipulation is using devious means to get another to do
your
will without their consent and this is sin - judyt
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:17:45 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you mean to imply that "deception" is always sinfully wrong, then manipulation is not deception. You use manipulation often. "We're waiting, Bill !! Where is your anser Bill? Or , is this just another example of you taking your ball (gosh, I hope this is not another reference to King Dav ...... oh, never mind) and run home." That is manipulation, Judy. Jesus was in control of the timing of His death - a form of manipulation. Like I said - you have no scripture on this - and sure enough, you don't.jdFrom: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Manipulation is sin JD. It is deception, working another person for your own ends.What's more it is not God's way. He gives his creation choices - always. It is the adversary who is theanger and control freak. You choose each day who you will serve. judytOn Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:59:55 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:And are you aware that this is not the only reason for Bill's passion. ? It is not sin to oppose a false doctrine. In fact, just the opposite is true.Nothing innately sinful about manipulation, Judy. You have no scripture on this and will never have. The fact is this - Jesus used manipulation as he opposed the Pharisees of the day.jd-------------- Original message --------------
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Bill are you aware that manipulation is sin? Backing a person into a corner with a "repent or fight" attitude has never been God's modus operandi although I do see it in the Crusades and Islam. You are wrong! My prayer for you is that you will eventually receive understanding from God, lay down your religious idols and find freedom in Christ. judyt
