Your own words contradict your theology. You admit that the language "born of a woman" are words that proclaim the human predicament. Any man born of woman shares in the predicament.
That the "generational curse" does not include the woman who gives birth, well, that is just silly, or worse, in light of this passage.
Whatever verse you are quoting (what passage ARE you quoting, Judy for this generaltional curse?) does not exclude the mother. I am quite sure it does not say tht it is passed down to the exclusion of the mothers involvement. And does this "generatlional curse" extend for more than two or three generations? And is it a curse for all of mankind or only in the Jewish tradition. ? No need to give your opinion on these questions. Just present thescritures you use and the Spirit will teach me the truth.
jd
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From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Another way of saying the whole creation is under a curse JD; do you know of any person who is not bornof a woman to date JD? However Jesus is the only one ever who is begotten by God; that makes him an exceptionsince the iniquities of the fathers comes down by way of the male. judytOn Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:42:57 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Job is not alluding to what you are trying to say JD. jtAnd what is Job alluding to, Judy. How can a man be pure when born of woman? There is some kind of mystery in those words? Something there that is hard to understand? Talk is cheap, Judy. Too bad it is also eternal. If it (Job 25:4) doesn't mean what it says, what does it mean? You have no explanation for that question that does not completely change the meaning of the written word.jd-------------- Original message --------------
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Is Job a Jew JD?Did the Jews recognize and acknowledge Christ in their generationGo through scripture and look for some "iniquities of the mothers"Why is it that men are so proud to take leadership roles except when it comes to responsibility? Amazing!!No wonder you want to put band aids on that old nasty fallen Adamic nature rather than die to it daily....On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:48:53 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Aaaahhhh, another scripture that does not go to the discussion. The fact of the matter is this, in using that scripture I am illustrating the consideration that was the preveailing thought in Jewish thinking concerning what you call "the generational curse." That Christ was born of a woman made Him no different in nature than anyone else and, for the Jew, this meant that He was not pure.If "generational curses" are true and apply to all of mankind, then Christ was not pure.The fact that you eliminate the woman from this "genertional curse" is only JudyLogic. If the "generational curse" doctrine is true, then you have a biblical problem in this Job refeence. But scripture is not your guide. You are.jd-------------- Original message --------------
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Job is not alluding to what you are trying to say JD. You need to study what God has to say rather than trying to put words in His mouth like you do with the rest of us constantly. Sin comes down generationally by way of the father. I understand Mary had a father also but that's just the way it is. You see Israel in Nehemiah's day as a nation repenting for the iniquities of their fathers. Maybe you should take a seminar with Bill and he can teach you word meanings. judyt.
