I happen to believe that God's call was to all ppl in all generations.


DAVEH:    The examples you mentioned below were obviously to people to whom the Lord sent messengers to preach.  I find it a bit hard to think the Chinese were afforded the same opportunity.  Do you believe that God sent prophets to preach the gospel to the Chinese a thousand years ago, Judy?  Do you really believe that all people born in the world in times past were aware of Jesus, and had the opportunity to believe in him, and have faith in him....and to hear the gospel message? 

 


Judith H Taylor wrote:
Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness.
Abraham lived in Ur of the Chaldees which was every bit as pagan as China, they worshipped the moon goddess Nana there
God's Word tells us that we can know by the "creation" around us that there is a God. The decision to seek and/or trust rests
with us.  I happen to believe that God's call was to all ppl in all generations.  Abraham responded.
I expect to hear some balking from the Calvinists but this is the understanding given to me....  judyt
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:54:33 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Everyone is born into this world with an equal opportunity to choose who they will serve

DAVEH:  I hope you don't mind me jumping into your exchange with JD, Judy.  Do you have any Biblical evidence to support your above theory?  If not, then can you explain how.....

1)  A Chinese person born 2,000 years ago would have had the same equal opportunity to choose as did somebody born in Jerusalem at the same time?

2)  Or, a Chinese person born 100 years ago would have had the same equal opportunity to choose as somebody born in the Bible Belt?

3)  Or a person born in China who was born 100 years before Jesus had the same equal opportunity to choose as one who lived in Jerusalem at the time of Christ?

    IOW.....How as a Christian well rooted and having the knowledge of Christ readily available from the time you were born, and perhaps relatives to guide your in your walk in his footsteps, do you think the above mentioned examples of the Chinese guy born in a non-Christian society really do have equal opportunity to choose who they will serve?  To me it seems there is a definite inequality in the circumstances in which people are born, and in having an equal opportunity to choose who they will serve to even hear Jesus' name, let alone accept him as their Savior, or choose to follow and serve him when they do not have the opportunity to hear the gospel.

    I can see where you might think Jesus would accept all men equally, but to say that all men are born into the world with equal opportunity seems a bit of a stretch.  Is it theory, or is it Biblical doctrine?

Judith H Taylor wrote:
Everyone is born into this world with an equal opportunity to choose who they will serve.
along with the opportunity to grow in wisdom and grace - or in deceit and darkness...  judyt
What do you believe separates ppl at birth JD?  judyt
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:01:15 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought Dean was saying that all men are born equal.  That, of course, is not true.  Some are way more stupid than others, growing up  without understanding nor the ability to comprehend the deeper things of life.    God loves them all, of course, but that does not make then "equal."
 
jd
 


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