> [Original Message]
> From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 2/12/2006 8:22:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
>
> IFO could read more than a little 'woman bashing' herein, David/Dean. I
> don't believe that either of the two of you would as, IMO, you both adopt
a
> more traditionalist understanding of the role of
men/women..husbands/wives.
cd: Respectfully Lance-Our goal is to conform to the biblical roles that
God placed on men and women as not to cause confusion-but to keep the
separation between spoken of by God in a high level of importance.One
example I can give of this is for a man not to dress as a women and for the
man not to dress as a women as this leads to confusion? Don't homosexuals
do this? What difference do you see between the sexes in their respect
biblical roles?Or should this separation be placed on a low level of
importance?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: February 12, 2006 08:05
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
>
>
> > Thank you David for this.
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Date: 2/11/2006 9:37:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
> >>
> >> Lance wrote:
> >> > And do you not know that you are an Eve?
> >> > The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives
> >> > in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too.
> >> > You are the devil's gateway: you are the unsealer
> >> > of that tree: you are the first deserter of the divine
> >> > law: you are she who persuaded him whom the
> >> > devil was not valiant enough to attack. You
> >> > destroyed so easily God's image, man. On account
> >> > of your desert - that is, death - even the Son of God
> >> > had to die. ~ Tertullian, Second Century
> >>
> >> The context of this is from a paragraph about modesty in apparel
becoming
> > to
> >> women. The quote stops short in that some sentences later, he
concludes
> >> this train of thought by saying:
> >> "Accordingly these things are all the baggage of woman in her condemned
> > and
> >> dead state, instituted as if to swell the pomp of her funeral."
> >>
> >> So he was not denigrating women here. He was establishing some
> > historical
> >> guidelines, expounding upon the judgment of God toward the woman which
> > said,
> >> "In pains and in anxieties dost thou bear (children), woman; and toward
> >> thine husband (is) thy inclination, and he lords It over thee."
> > Tertullian
> >> quoted this passage just before the quote given by Debbie above.
> > Tertullian
> >> then goes on, based upon the writings of Enoch (which he holds to be
> >> Scripture but recognizes that the Jews did not because they did not
think
> >> such writings could survive the flood, but Tertullian believed Noah,
> > Enoch's
> >> great grandson, to have taken it with him in the ark), to argue that
> > women
> >> who wear mascara and jewelry and fine ornaments were taught this by the
> >> angels that had sinned and come down and married women. He points out
> > that
> >> these same angels are the angels that we will judge, and if we will
judge
> >> them, what is it that women have to do with these things they brought
to
> > us,
> >> being consumed with putting on makeup on their face, or coloring their
> > hair,
> >> or wearing fine jewelry. He points out that these are things of the
> > earth
> >> and nothing that women of God ought to be concerned with. Then he
points
> >> out that the promise of judging these angels also is given to women;
> >> therefore, they ought not be involved with these things that were
> >> dishonoring to the Creator. Tertullian writes:
> >>
> >> "For you too, (women as you are,) have the selfsame angelic nature
> > promised
> >> as your reward, the selfsame sex as men: the selfsame advancement to
the
> >> dignity of judging, does (the Lord) promise you."
> >>
> >> Such a statement is along the lines of there being no male or female in
> > the
> >> eyes of God. It is an empowering statement, that women will be made
> > judges
> >> of angels on an equal level with men, so the quote taken out of context
> > to
> >> make Tertullian look like a woman basher is erroneous. Debbie would be
> > wise
> >> to hear the end of his conversation.
> >>
> >> David Miller.
> >>
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> > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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