Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

[Lance Muir]

I'd be fully in support of 'speaking out', Dean. It matters, of course, what one has to say when 'speaking out'. The line of thinking vis a vis women, blacks and first nation's peoples had to do with an ungodly and therefore, unbiblical treatment of each. Your illustration was excellent. Have you seen 'Amistad'?  ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2006 08:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/12/2006 7:16:09 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Ahh but there's never a linguist around when you need one. I reference actual, honest-to-goodness, real, live, living in the Spirit BELIEVERS/CHRISTIANS. Yes! They did. Yes! They do! Yes! One or more may be a TT participant. Can such do such? Unequivocally yes! Does this contradict 1 Jn along with other passages? Resoundingly no!   So Lance, what do you actually believe concerning the past/present treatment of women/blacks/1st nations ppls? Oh, just read the above.   cd: Lance/Gary-I think that we need to consider what we are defining as "mistreatment of women"? I am not necessary speaking of placing then in a lower role in the Church-I am speaking of the broader sense of cruelty towards women-that is an off sprig for placing then in that lower order, or the results of the bias one has towards women.There will be Christians who dwell in ignorance of the women role with God-which if one is seeking understanding with his whole heart that ignorance shouldn't be there long at all-but to purposely degrade women or physically harm them is another matter entirely. No Christian will continue in such acts-and to do so is to be the same as a lost man who serves Satan.     I was a member of a small Baptist church  at the headwaters of Caney Fork,N.C.- and the church held the view that women should be silent in church-yet there was this one women who had such a love of God and the brethren that she had to speak out-and she was told to be silent many times.One night in the prayer from she was silence again to which God told me to say; "No, she shouldn't be silent" I want to hear what she has to say" the Pastor then agreed with me and the men were silenced and she spoke of Jesus Christ and proved to have much more knowledge of the Bible then the Deacons had. I believe those Deacons and the Pastor to be strong believers-yet they had been taught ignorance.This is why I believe it to be important that Christian speaks out and encourage others to do the same.And Lance- if you discourage Christian from speaking out in public-what are you doing that is different than those Deacons?Your stance seems to be one in which you believe women should speak out-I don't understand? ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 11, 2006 21:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. the moderator splittin' hairs in public--by what authority?   On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:20:44 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >.."believers" didn't misteat women the so-called christians did.