Nobody who has ever known me in person has called me pompous, but I have been accused of such from my writing. I think the apostle Paul had a similar problem (2 Cor. 10:10) so I'm not going to worry about it too much.
For what it's worth, I do not lay claim to 'knowing' in a special way beyond that of most, IF by most you mean other believers. I do lay claim to 'knowing' in a special way that is beyond that of the world. It is called the Holy Spirit. Do you have a problem with this? As for Christology, that does matter, but not nearly so much as sin. Believers who testify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody else is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems defective. David Miller. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a little like hockey. The serious issue at hand re: 'delusion' is not necessarily rooted in wrong doctrine, IMO. However, few would disagree that misrepresenting 'who Jesus is' (Christology) matters. Pomposity when speaking also matters. DM, IMO, is pompous in a quiet, literate fashion. DM also lays claim to 'knowing' in a special way beyong that of most. CD has, of late, been adopting such an approach. Judy also, along with DM, lays claim to 'inspired' understanding of the Scriptures. Within such an engagement as this all we have is 'body checking' and, IMO, that ought not be the primary focus. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Moore To: [email protected] Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding ----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected];[email protected] Sent: 2/14/2006 6:02:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Aahhh ----------- from you two, mostly from Judy. cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worlds suffers from-but God does allow that delusion for a reason John. I have no doubt that you speak the truth as you see it-but this is much different from the one that exists. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements that have been taken out of context- but you are incorrect.By the way who is the BSF? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected];[email protected] Sent: 2/14/2006 1:25:44 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with who believes the following: 1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh being changed afterwards. 2. Christ is not the "eternal " Son of God. 3. Christ was of human flesh for only 3 1/2 years. 4. Christ was not the physical descendent of David - only in some spiritual sense. 5. Christ was not "God on earth" during His ministry. 6. The "Trinity" is false doctrine. 7. God is male and has a penis. 8. God illuminates His disciples to the extent that discussion and books are not necessary. Because of this "illumination," the understanding of acripture can be "received" from the Spirit without fear of being wrong. Those who have this Spirit cannot be mistaken when it comes to the Bible and what it means to say. And those who disagree with this are false teachers and need to be opposed. 9. The old law is binding and continues to be something we must obey. I would add to this list -- but I am sure this will be sufficent . Dean, you and Judy are the very definition of "cult!!" but nice try. And what do you want to bet that BSF will not agree? By the way - you are the one who has set the tone for this response. This is the fruit of your ministry. Accusing me of preaching the occult is not going to fly. jd l message -------------- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .Amen Dean, JD I figure you were thinking of Proverbs 11:14b when you wrote what you say below ie: "in the multitude of counsellors there is safety" However the "counsellors" referred to in Proverbs ARE those of God's Word or the Biblical text as you call it. They all say the same thing by the same Spirit and this is the counsel in which we find safety. Groupthink?? Anathema!! On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:02:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: A very good definition of the birth of a cult John. No one truth to live by but group thinking-No standards to point our error if the group agrees with the present circumstance-I can see why your group don't like preaching such as David does-the one is dominated by the many as his voice is lost in the power of the mass. JD writes: In the biblical concept of the church I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not revelation, certainly interpretation or understanding. If you will, it is in the counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical text is expanded and/or confirmed. How important, it is, then, that the church continue to meet in forums such as this -- whether virtual or physical. A community of Being reveals Himself to a community of Believers and it is out of this communal reality that our understanding of God and His t houghts is borne. jd ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
