John, are you getting paranoid? Nobody accused you of preaching
the occult. Also, I hope you understand the difference between
'cult' and 'occult.'
David Miller.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:25
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to
understanding
Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this
list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It
will describe a person I am dealing with who believes the
following:
1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall --
their flesh being changed afterwards.
2. Christ is not the "eternal " Son of
God.
3. Christ was of human flesh for only 3 1/2
years.
4. Christ was not the physical descendent of David
- only in some spiritual sense.
5. Christ was not "God on earth" during His
ministry.
6. The "Trinity" is false doctrine.
7. God is male and has a penis.
8. God illuminates His disciples to the extent that
discussion and books are not necessary. Because of this
"illumination," the understanding of acripture can
be "received" from the Spirit without fear of being
wrong. Those who have this Spirit cannot be mistaken when it
comes to the Bible and what it means to say.
And those who disagree with this are false teachers and need to be
opposed.
9. The old law is binding and continues to be something
we must obey.
I would add to this list -- but I am sure this
will be sufficent .
Dean, you and Judy are the very definition of
"cult!!" but nice try. And what do you want to bet that
BSF will not agree?
By the way - you are the one who has set the tone
for this response. This is the fruit of your
ministry. Accusing me of preaching the occult is not going to
fly.
jd
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From: Judy Taylor
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.Amen Dean,
JD I figure you were
thinking of Proverbs 11:14b when you wrote what you say below
ie: "in the multitude of
counsellors there is safety" However the
"counsellors" referred to in Proverbs ARE those of God's Word
or
the Biblical text as you call it.
They all say the same thing by the same Spirit and this is the
counsel in which
we find safety. Groupthink??
Anathema!!
cd: A very good definition
of the birth of a cult John. No one truth to live by but group
thinking-No standards to point our error if the group agrees with the
present circumstance-I can see why your group don't like preaching such
as David does-the one is dominated by the many as his voice is lost in
the power of the mass.
JD writes:
In the biblical
concept of the church
I see an avenue for
continuing revelation,
and if not revelation,
certainly interpretation or understanding.
If you will, it is in the counsel of many that our understanding of the
biblical text is expanded and/or confirmed. How important, it is,
then, that the church
continue to meet in forums such as this -- whether virtual or physical.
A community of
Being reveals Himself to a community of Believers and it is out of
this communal reality that our understanding of God and His t
houghts is borne.
jd