Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

[Judy Taylor]

For someone whose expertise is with words Lance, your friend sure plays fast and loose with them. Nowhere does scripture say "Christ became sin or a sinner" - Remember?  He was "begotten not made, of one substance with the Father" - so even Orthodoxy disputes her thesis.    It was on the cross that he was actually "made" sin for us who knew no sin so that we might be "made" the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21). Note the words "made" in this verse have two different meanings.   The first #4160 "to make or do" ie: God made him sin on the cross The second #1096 "generate, to become or come into being, to cause" Which happens after the New Birth when the Holy Spirit comes to indwell the believer and make all things new.     From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: March 14, 2006 22:04 Subject: excerpt redux Lance, I was just printing out the next raw chapter (on "Two Kinds of Righteousness" and "A Meditation on Christ's Passion") in preparation for editing, and my eye lit on this portion at the end. I'm sending it to you raw, because being at the end of a 24-page chapter it'll be a while till I get to it in the editing. It's Q&A, and the point I was noticing was that sin has no existence apart from sinners, two interesting ramifications of which are (a) that Christ, in becoming sin, became sinner, and (b) that the aphorism, "hate the sin but love the sinner" is problematic. I think of both of these in relation to recent (well, not so recent anymore, perhaps) threads on TT.   Any thoughts? What do you do with this hatred thingy?   D