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> When I say that I'm not a strict creationist, I'm refering to the
> idea that
> the universe, the earth, and everything living on it were created
> roughly 10000
> years ago. Certainly I'm a creationist in the sense that I believe that God
> created the universe, there's no other way it could have come to be. Also,
> you are completely right:
>
> David:
> > I think your attitude of waiting for a third
> > option is simply that gnawing feeling that something is amiss with the
> > purely scientific explanation of natural laws and evolution explaining it
> > all.
>
> That is precisely why I am waiting for a third option. I believe that a
> purely scientific explanation of natural laws and evolution can't explain life
> getting here. I t hink there is a lot of necessary evidence missing for
> evolution, but that evolution is accepted because the only other possibility,
> God, is ruled out in advance (by scientists). However, I also believe
> that the
> universe, the earth, and (possibly) life have been around for a very
> long time.
>
> Quoting David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Conor wrote:
> >> Personally, I'm not convinced that the seven
> >> days of creation are meant to be taken literally.
> >
> > I tend to think they are to be taken literally, primarily because of the
> > emphasis on evening and morning, but also because the first creation account
> > appears to be an empirical, chronological style description in comparison to
> > the second creation account.
> >
> > Conor wrote:
> >> Ironically though, I'm not a strict evolutionist,
> >> or a strict creationist. I'm s till waiting for a third
> >> option, which seems to be slow in coming.
> >
> > If you believe that God created the heavens and the earth, then you are a
> > creationist. How he did that becomes secondary. For a pure scientist, God
> > did not create. The scientist has no creationist option at all. Evolution
> > is the only option.
> >
> > Creationist models can incorporate evolutionary components, and should, but
> > scientifically oriented evolutionary models cannot and do not incorporate
> > any creationist components. I think your attitude of waiting for a third
> > option is simply that gnawing feeling that something is amiss with the
> > purely scientific explanation of natural laws and evolution explaining it
> > all.
> >
> > My sense is that the earth and universe is old, but life on earth is of
> > relatively recent origin.
> >
> > David Mille r
>
>
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