Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

[Judy Taylor]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:33:23 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Romans 14 is not a discussion of how to treat the weak brother TO THE EXCLUSION OF DIVERSITY. The problem in Romans 14 is clearly that of diversity.  The principle used to deal with doctrinal diversity is stated in 14:4 and is the only way unity within the fellowship can exist.   Answer this question, Judy.   At the end of the day,  do the four brothers in Romans 14 speak and and say the same thing?   If not, why is that picture not one   of manifest diversity? 

There is no principle or a picture of "manifest diversity" there JD; being either "weak or strong" IN THE SAME FAITH once delivered to the saints hardly constitutes "diversity". Also the doubtful disputations in Romans 14:1 do not apply to doctrine but to what one feels free to eat or not to eat.  See Romans 14:15 "If your brother be grieved at your meat, how are you walking in love?"

So far as doctrine is concerned Paul goes on to write in Romans 16:17 "Now I beseech you brethren, MARK THEM which cause divisions and offences CONTRARY TO THE DOCTRINE which ye have learned and AVOID THEM"

Secondly,  with regard to Acts 15,  at the end of the day,   are the Jewish Christian practicing the very same things as is required of the Gentile Church in the letter from the Council?  If not, why is that not a picture of manifest diversity? 

What the Jews practiced or did not practice following the resurrection is no standard for doctrine, nor is it a picture of manifest diversity JD. This was the rationale of the rcc priest who once told me the reason for rosary beads is because the ppl liked them and they comforted the ppl so the church adopted them.  This is how we get off into heresy and gross error.  Paul was far from "unity in diversity" at the end of his day when he writes "Therefore watch, and remember that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears" (Acts 20:31)

 

       

 

jd

 

 

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:30:49 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You don't see it ianywhere in scripture??? 

Try reading Romans 14. 

Or look to the solutions offered in Acts 15.  

Unity in diversity is the very theme of those passages.  jd

 

Only if you are intent on reading it into these passages JD

Romans 14 speaks of how to treat those weak in the faith; I don't see any "diversity" there; unity

is something they will grow into as they grow in faith, it is still the faith once delivered to the saints.

Acts 15 does not address "diversity" either, in fact the instruction is only about sin that would cause

them to stumble as they grown. Interesting that they didn't send them a book of rules. However, this

is not so they could "do their own thing" - Note: "It seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us" so

they are to be under the tutelage of the Holy Spirit.

 

The goal is for all "to come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto

a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ" (Eph 4:13)