Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:54:05 -0800

 
I think she adjusts and adapts to the perceived depth of those she is addressing Lance
 
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You're soooooooooo deep, Iz.
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> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
> > Baloney.

> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance 
> > Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel,
> on some
> > occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
> > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin: Purim
> > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >
> >
> >> But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)
> iz
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Deegan
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin: Purim
> >> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>
> >> Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers,
> has
> >> adopted the role of oppressor.
> >>
> >> ROTFL
> >> That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
> >> Where did you pick this whopper up?
> >>
> >> Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
> >> http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
> >> Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of
> California,
> >> SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640
> TIMES her
> >> size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
> >> propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone
> believe
> >> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of
> the
> >> lands called Arab, be responsible for the political
> dissatisfaction of
> >> 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world
> (almost 5
> >> million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems
> of
> >> the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion
> Muslims
> >> worldwide?
> >>
> >> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too!!!!!!!!
> >> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament
> of
> >> David before he meets Goliath!
> >> LOL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on
> the odd
> >>> 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!
> Sadly,
> >>> Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
> adopted the
> >>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
> >>>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>   To: [email protected] ; [email protected]
> >>>   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
> >>>   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin:
> >>> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me
> better
> >>> than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the
> kind
> >>> of narrowness that I disregard.
> >>>
> >>>   jd
> >>>
> >>>     -------------- Original message --------------
> >>>     From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>     Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the
> church;
> >>> they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews
> more
> >>> than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do. 
> Your
> >>> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Romans 11
> >>>     Israel Is Not Cast Away
> >>>      1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He?
> (B)May
> >>> it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of
> Abraham,
> >>> of the tribe of Benjamin.
> >>>
> >>>      2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew
> (F)Or do
> >>> you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about
> Elijah, how
> >>> he pleads with God against Israel?
> >>>
> >>>      3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN
> DOWN
> >>> YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY
> LIFE."
> >>>
> >>>      4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT
> for
> >>> Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL."
> >>>
> >>>      5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the
> present
> >>> time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
> >>>
> >>>      6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
> >>> works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
> >>>
> >>>      7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained,
> but
> >>> those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were
> (L)hardened;
> >>>
> >>>      8just as it is written,
> >>>              "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
> >>>              EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
> >>>              DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."
> >>>
> >>>      9And David says,
> >>>              "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
> >>>              AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
> >>>         10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
> >>>              AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."
> >>>
> >>>      11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did
> they?
> >>> (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has
> come
> >>> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.
> >>>
> >>>      12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and
> their
> >>> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
> >>> (T)fulfillment be!
> >>>
> >>>      13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then
> as
> >>> (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
> >>>
> >>>      14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow
> countrymen
> >>> and (X)save some of them.
> >>>
> >>>      15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the
> world,
> >>> what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?
> >>>
> >>>      16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is
> also; and
> >>> if the root is holy, the branches are too.
> >>>
> >>>      17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and
> (AC)you,
> >>> being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became
> partaker
> >>> with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
> >>>
> >>>      18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
> >>> arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root,
> but
> >>> the root supports you.
> >>>
> >>>      19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that
> I
> >>> might be grafted in."
> >>>
> >>>      20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but
> you
> >>> (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear;
> >>>
> >>>      21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will
> not
> >>> spare you, either.
> >>>
> >>>      22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those
> who
> >>> fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you
> continue
> >>> in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off.
> >>>
> >>>      23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their
> unbelief,
> >>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
> >>>
> >>>      24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild
> olive
> >>> tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated
> olive
> >>> tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be
> >>> grafted into their own olive tree?
> >>>
> >>>      25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of
> this
> >>> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own
> >>> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel
> until
> >>> the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
> >>>
> >>>      26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
> >>>              "(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
> >>>              HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB."
> >>>         27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
> >>>              (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
> >>>
> >>>      28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies
> for
> >>> your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are
> beloved
> >>> for (AU)the sake of the fathers;
> >>>
> >>>      29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are
> irrevocable.
> >>>
> >>>      30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now
> have
> >>> been shown mercy because of their disobedience,
> >>>
> >>>      31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of
> the
> >>> mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy.
> >>>
> >>>      32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He
> may
> >>> show mercy to all.
> >>>
> >>>      33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom
> and
> >>> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and
> >>> unfathomable His ways!
> >>>
> >>>      34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME
> HIS
> >>> COUNSELOR?
> >>>
> >>>      35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID
> BACK
> >>> TO HIM AGAIN?
> >>>
> >>>      36For (BD)from Him and through Him and to Him are all
> things
> >>> (BE)To Him be the glory forever. Amen.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>     Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 PM
> >>>     To: [email protected];
> [email protected]
> >>>     Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi
> Daniel
> >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     First ,   I am not a dispensationalist  --  never have been
> and
> >>> very likely never will be.   It is an American theological
> invention.
> >>>  a man named Darby being its first major proponent,  and
> Scolfield
> >>> along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of
> its
> >>> critical acclaim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Secondly,  an unregenerated Jew is no different than an
> >>> unregenerated Floridian.
> >>>
> >>>     I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason
> that
> >>> such was never the intention of God  --  never.   Jews get no
> credit
> >>> from me for the Messiah  --  they rejected Him then, killed
> him,
> >>> came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role
> in
> >>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and 
> left
> >>> the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of
> their
> >>> holy city.   There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than
> perhaps the
> >>> sites of any other world religion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside
> the
> >>> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a
> biblical
> >>> conclusion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact
> that
> >>> I do not hate the Jew.   Israel was created by agreements of
> the
> >>> young United Nations.  Their new land was nothing like what it
> is
> >>> today.   And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which
> is
> >>> reasonable or even human, at times.   The surrounding
> Muslim/Arab
> >>> world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility
> of
> >>> compromise is disgustingly stupid to me   Where, at one time,  I
> had
> >>> some regard for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have none.   I
> think
> >>> it is violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all
> who
> >>> are not Muslim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very
> >>> materialistic people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ
> in
> >>> terms of matters of faith and practice.     Biblically
> speaking,
> >>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ.   It is not a sister
> >>> religion.  Where some consider the Old Testament as the history
> of
> >>> the Jewish people,   I really view it as the history of the
> Church.
> >>>  God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     jd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       -------------- Original message --------------
> >>>       From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>       Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as
> you
> >>> know.  Soon there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely
> miss
> >>> a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC
> who
> >>> are true apostates.  They claim to serve Jesus and yet are
> >>> anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.
>  The
> >>> Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a
> >>> special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew,
> >>> because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because
> one
> >>> day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why
> doesn't
> >>> that have any meaning for you? izzy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>       Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
> >>>       To: [email protected];
> [email protected]
> >>>       Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi
> Daniel
> >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       Here is what I said, Linda.:  "Do you know of any orthodox
> Jews
> >>> who do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any
> meaning
> >>> to you?    I will give my money to the needy, thank you very
> much.  "
> >>>  There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe,
> just
> >>> maybe,  you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look
> as
> >>> bad as possible and actually answer the above question.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one
> penny
> >>> from church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on
> this
> >>> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those
> who
> >>> deny the Lord you claim to serve.
> >>>
> >>>       I expect such conduct from you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       jd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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