> > [
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On Behalf Of Lance
> > Even at this late date such a response
is unworthy of you. Israel,
> on some
> > occasions (see
it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!
> >
> >
> >
----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ShieldsFamily" <
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>
> To: <
[email protected]>
>
> Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
> > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin: Purim
> >
2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >
> >
> >> But
Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)
>
iz
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From:
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>> [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kevin
> Deegan
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21,
2006 4:06 PM
> >> To:
[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin: Purim
> >> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>
>>
> >> Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often
by believers,
> has
> >> adopted the role of
oppressor.
> >>
> >> ROTFL
> >> That is
Ludicrous on the face of it.
> >> Where did you pick this
whopper up?
> >>
> >> Perhaps you need a Geography
lesson!
> >>
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html>
>> Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of
>
California,
> >> SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic
dictatorships with 640
> TIMES her
> >> size, 60 TIMES
her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab
> >>
propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone
>
believe
> >> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of
one percent of
> the
> >> lands called Arab, be
responsible for the political
> dissatisfaction of
> >>
22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world
>
(almost 5
> >> million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed
for the problems
> of
> >> the 300 million Arabs, who
have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion
> Muslims
> >>
worldwide?
> >>
> >> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH
too!!!!!!!!
> >> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call
for disarmament
> of
> >> David before he meets
Goliath!
> >> LOL
> >>
> >>
>
>>
> >> --- Lance Muir <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lance chimes in: Just like you
and I, Linda, John has gone on
> the odd
> >>> 'rant'.
but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!
> Sadly,
>
>>> Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
> adopted the
> >>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE
ARE WHEN IN POWER.
> >>> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To:
[email protected] ;
[email protected]>
>>> Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
>
>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from
Rabbi Daniel
> Lapin:
> >>> Purim 2006-Not All
Authority is Bad
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>> There is little point in talking with someone who
knows me
> better
> >>> than I know me.
Such arrogant surmising is the product of the
> kind
>
>>> of narrowness that I disregard.
> >>>
>
>>> jd
> >>>
>
>>> -------------- Original message
--------------
> >>> From:
"ShieldsFamily" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>>
> >>> Jd, I never said
the Jews will be restored Outside of the
> church;
>
>>> they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike
Jews
> more
> >>> than any other unbelievers. It
is obvious to me that you do.
> Your
> >>>
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>> Romans 11
>
>>> Israel Is Not Cast Away
>
>>> 1I say then, God has not
(A)rejected His people, has He?
> (B)May
> >>> it
never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of
>
Abraham,
> >>> of the tribe of Benjamin.
>
>>>
> >>> 2God (D)has
not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew
> (F)Or do
>
>>> you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about
> Elijah, how
> >>> he pleads with God against
Israel?
> >>>
>
>>> 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR
PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN
> DOWN
> >>> YOUR ALTARS, AND
I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY
> LIFE."
>
>>>
> >>> 4But what is
the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT
> for
>
>>> Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO
BAAL."
> >>>
>
>>> 5In the same way then, there has
also come to be at the
> present
> >>> time (I)a
remnant according to God's gracious choice.
> >>>
>
>>> 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is
no longer on the basis of
> >>> works, otherwise grace is no
longer grace.
> >>>
>
>>> 7What then? What (K)Israel is
seeking, it has not obtained,
> but
> >>> those who
were chosen obtained it, and the rest were
> (L)hardened;
>
>>>
> >>> 8just as it
is written,
>
>>>
"(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
>
>>>
EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
>
>>>
DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."
> >>>
>
>>> 9And David says,
>
>>>
"(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
>
>>>
AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
>
>>> 10"(O)LET THEIR
EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
>
>>>
AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."
> >>>
>
>>> 11(P)I say then, they did not
stumble so as to fall, did
> they?
> >>> (Q)May it
never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has
> come
>
>>> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.
>
>>>
> >>> 12Now if
their transgression is riches for the world and
> their
>
>>> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will
their
> >>> (T)fulfillment be!
> >>>
>
>>> 13But I am speaking to you who
are Gentiles. Inasmuch then
> as
> >>> (U)I am an
apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
> >>>
>
>>> 14if somehow I might (V)move to
jealousy (W)my fellow
> countrymen
> >>> and (X)save
some of them.
> >>>
>
>>> 15For if their rejection is the
(Y)reconciliation of the
> world,
> >>> what will
their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?
> >>>
>
>>> 16If the (AA)first piece of dough
is holy, the lump is
> also; and
> >>> if the root is
holy, the branches are too.
> >>>
>
>>> 17But if some of the (AB)branches
were broken off, and
> (AC)you,
> >>> being a wild
olive, were grafted in among them and became
> partaker
>
>>> with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
>
>>>
> >>> 18do not be
arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
> >>> arrogant,
remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root,
> but
>
>>> the root supports you.
> >>>
>
>>> 19(AE)You will say then,
"Branches were broken off so that
> I
> >>> might be
grafted in."
> >>>
>
>>> 20Quite right, they were broken
off for their unbelief, but
> you
> >>> (AF)stand by
your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear;
> >>>
>
>>> 21for if God did not spare the
natural branches, He will
> not
> >>> spare you,
either.
> >>>
>
>>> 22Behold then the kindness and
severity of God; to those
> who
> >>> fell, severity,
but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you
> continue
>
>>> in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut
off.
> >>>
> >>>
23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their
>
unbelief,
> >>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft
them in again.
> >>>
>
>>> 24For if you were cut off from
what is by nature a wild
> olive
> >>> tree, and were
grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated
> olive
>
>>> tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches
be
> >>> grafted into their own olive tree?
>
>>>
> >>> 25For (AL)I
do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of
> this
>
>>> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your
own
> >>> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has
happened to Israel
> until
> >>> the (AP)fullness of
the Gentiles has come in;
> >>>
>
>>> 26and so all Israel will be
saved; just as it is written,
>
>>>
"(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
>
>>>
HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB."
>
>>> 27"(AR)THIS IS
MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
>
>>>
(AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
> >>>
>
>>> 28From the standpoint of the
gospel they are (AT)enemies
> for
> >>> your sake, but
from the standpoint of God's choice they are
> beloved
>
>>> for (AU)the sake of the fathers;
> >>>
>
>>> 29for the gifts and the
(AV)calling of God (AW)are
> irrevocable.
>
>>>
> >>> 30For just
as you once were disobedient to God, but now
> have
>
>>> been shown mercy because of their disobedience,
>
>>>
> >>> 31so these
also now have been disobedient, that because of
> the
>
>>> mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy.
>
>>>
> >>> 32For
(AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He
> may
>
>>> show mercy to all.
> >>>
>
>>> 33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches
both of the (AZ)wisdom
> and
> >>> knowledge of God!
(BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and
> >>> unfathomable
His ways!
> >>>
>
>>> 34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND
OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME
> HIS
> >>>
COUNSELOR?
> >>>
>
>>> 35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO
HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID
> BACK
> >>> TO HIM
AGAIN?
> >>>
>
>>> 36For (BD)from Him and through
Him and to Him are all
> things
> >>> (BE)To Him be
the glory forever. Amen.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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>
>>>
> >>> From:
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>>> [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of
> >>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20
PM
> >>> To:
[email protected];
>
[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi
> Daniel
> >>> Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
>
>>> First , I am not a
dispensationalist -- never have been
> and
>
>>> very likely never will be. It is an American
theological
> invention.
> >>> a man named Darby
being its first major proponent, and
> Scolfield
>
>>> along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of
> its
> >>> critical acclaim.
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>> Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is
no different than an
> >>> unregenerated Floridian.
>
>>>
> >>> I give no honor to
any race of people for the simple reason
> that
> >>>
such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews
get no
> credit
> >>> from me for the Messiah
-- they rejected Him then, killed
> him,
> >>>
came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role
>
in
> >>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this
earth - and
> left
> >>> the church almost to
the man in the years following the fall of
> their
>
>>> holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites
than
> perhaps the
> >>> sites of any other world
religion.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>> That God is going
to reestablish the Jewish people outside
> the
> >>>
blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a
>
biblical
> >>> conclusion.
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
>
>>> And the main point , for me, that you
skim over, is the fact
> that
> >>> I do not hate the
Jew. Israel was created by agreements of
> the
>
>>> young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like
what it
> is
> >>> today. And the hatred
of Palestinians goes beyond that which
> is
> >>>
reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding
>
Muslim/Arab
> >>> world's determination to destroy Isreal
without the possibility
> of
> >>> compromise is
disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I
>
had
> >>> some regard for the Muslim religion ,
today, I have none. I
> think
> >>> it is
violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all
>
who
> >>> are not Muslim.
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
>
>>> But I have little regard for Judaism,
as well. A very
> >>> materialistic
people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ
>
in
> >>> terms of matters of faith and
practice. Biblically
> speaking,
>
>>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is
not a sister
> >>> religion. Where some consider the
Old Testament as the history
> of
> >>> the Jewish
people, I really view it as the history of the
>
Church.
> >>> God's chosen are to be found within the
body of Christ.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>> jd
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>> -------------- Original
message --------------
>
>>> From: "ShieldsFamily"
<
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>
>>>
> >>> Jd,
there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as
> you
>
>>> know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why
you rarely
> miss
> >>> a chance to take a shot at
Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC
> who
> >>> are
true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are
>
>>> anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different
gospel.
> The
> >>> Jews at least are honest
about their stance on Jesus. I have a
> >>> special
place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew,
> >>>
because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because
>
one
> >>> day Jesus will again restore Israel into His
kingdom. Why
> doesn't
> >>> that have any
meaning for you? izzy
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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>
>>>
> >>> From:
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> >>>
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>>> Sent: Monday, March 20,
2006 4:23 PM
> >>> To:
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>
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>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi
> Daniel
> >>> Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
>
>>> Here is what I said,
Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox
> Jews
>
>>> who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have
any
> meaning
> >>> to you? I will
give my money to the needy, thank you very
> much. "
>
>>> There in not one hateful word in that comment
-- not one.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>> You
can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe,
> just
>
>>> maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me
look
> as
> >>> bad as possible and actually answer
the above question.
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>> I am
for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one
>
penny
> >>> from church coffers. but go ahead and blast
the RCC or those on
> this
> >>> forum who are
dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those
> who
>
>>> deny the Lord you claim to serve.
> >>>
>
>>> I expect such conduct from
you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>> jd
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
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