Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

[Judy Taylor]

Exactly, you have set yourself up as a judge of ppl who knows nothing about what is important and exhibits inordinate affection for worldly foolishness and the wisdom of Hollywood.   On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:12:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I offer up as evidence Kevin, Judy, David, Dean and Iz. Say n'more, say n'more, a nod's as good as a wink.  From: Kevin Deegan   And we have been been here sooooo looooong and you have offered WHAT EVIDENCE?   O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as Evidence. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David:It's because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself. I've seen that for a long time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a > "harumph." Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration. > > David Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > > David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning > theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face > of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who > hold > your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently > dangerous. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > >> ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. >> >> David Miller >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim >> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad >> >> >> Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has >> adopted the role of oppressor. >> >> ROTFL >> That is Ludicrous on the face of it. >> Where did you pick this whopper up? >> >> Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! >> http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html >> Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, >> SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her >> size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab >> propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe >> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the >> lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of >> 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 >> million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of >> the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims >> worldwide? >> >> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too!!!!!!!! >> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of >> David before he meets Goliath! >> LOL >> >> >> >> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd >>> 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, >>> Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the >>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>> Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: >>> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad >>> >>> >>> There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better >>> than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind >>> of narrowness that I disregard. >>> >>> jd >>> >>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; >>> they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more >>> than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your >>> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy >>> >>> >>> >>> Romans 11 >>> Israel Is Not Cast Away >>> 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May >>> it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, >>> of the tribe of Benjamin. >>> >>> 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do >>> you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how >>> he pleads with God against Israel? >>> >>> 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN >>> YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." >>> >>> 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for >>> Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." >>> >>> 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present >>> time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. >>> >>> 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of >>> works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. >>> >>> 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but >>> those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; >>> >>> 8just as it is written, >>> "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, >>> EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, >>> DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." >>> >>> 9And David says, >>> "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, >>> AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. >>> 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, >>> AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." >>> >>> 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? >>> (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come >>> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. >>> >>> 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their >>> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their >>> (T)fulfillment be! >>> >>> 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as >>> (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, >>> >>> 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen >>> and (X)save some of them. >>> >>> 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, >>> what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? >>> >>> 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and >>> if the root is holy, the branches are too. >>> >>> 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, >>> being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker >>> with them of the rich root of the olive tree, >>> >>> 18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are >>> arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but >>> the root supports you. >>> >>> 19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I >>> might be grafted in." >>> >>> 20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you >>> (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; >>> >>> 21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not >>> spare you, either. >>> >>> 22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who >>> fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue >>> in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. >>> >>> 23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, >>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. >>> >>> 24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive >>> tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive >>> tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be >>> grafted into their own olive tree? >>> >>> 25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this >>> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own >>> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until >>> the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; >>> >>> 26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, >>> "(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, >>> HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." >>> 27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, >>> (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS." >>> >>> 28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for >>> your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved >>> for (AU)the sake of the fathers; >>> >>> 29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. >>> >>> 30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have >>> been shown mercy because of their disobedience, >>> >>> 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the >>> mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. >>> >>> 32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may >>> show mercy to all. >>> >>> 33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom and >>> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and >>> unfathomable His ways! >>> >>> 34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS >>> COUNSELOR? >>> >>> 35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK >>> TO HIM AGAIN? >>> >>> 36For (BD)from Him and through Him and to Him are all things >>> (BE)To Him be the glory forever. Amen. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 PM >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad >>> >>> >>> >>> First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and >>> very likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. >>> a man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield >>> along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its >>> critical acclaim. >>> >>> >>> >>> Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an >>> unregenerated Floridian. >>> >>> I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that >>> such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit >>> from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, >>> came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in >>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and left >>> the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their >>> holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the >>> sites of any other world religion. >>> >>> >>> >>> That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the >>> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical >>> conclusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that >>> I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the >>> young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is >>> today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is >>> reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab >>> world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of >>> compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had >>> some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think >>> it is violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who >>> are not Muslim. >>> >>> >>> >>> But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very >>> materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in >>> terms of matters of faith and practice. Biblically speaking, >>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is not a sister >>> religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of >>> the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of the Church. >>> God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ. >>> >>> >>> >>> jd >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you >>> know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss >>> a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who >>> are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are >>> anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The >>> Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a >>> special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, >>> because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one >>> day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesn't >>> that have any meaning for you? izzy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews >>> who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning >>> to you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. " >>> There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. >>> >>> >>> >>> You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just >>> maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as >>> bad as possible and actually answer the above question. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny >>> from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this >>> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who >>> deny the Lord you claim to serve. >>> >>> I expect such conduct from you. >>> >>> >>> >>> jd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> ---------- >> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >> know >> how you ought to answer every man." 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