I offer up as evidence Kevin, Judy, David, Dean and
Iz. Say n'more, say n'more, a nod's as good as a wink.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: March 22, 2006 16:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
And we have been been here sooooo looooong and you have
offered
WHAT EVIDENCE?
O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as
Evidence. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
David:It's
because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself.
I've seen that for a long time. ----- Original Message ----- From:
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26 Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not
All Authority is Bad
> Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you
are the one who offers only a > "harumph." Kevin presented actual
evidence for consideration. > > David Miller > >
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Muir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: >
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > 2006-Not All
Authority is Bad > > > David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I
said recently to David concerning > theology/science/logic; should you
respond only with 'harumph' in the face > of mounting evidence then,
you ought to be speaking only with those who > hold > your
views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently >
dangerous. > > > ----- Original Message ----- >
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:
> Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56 >
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > >>
ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. >> >> David
Miller >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>
From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05
PM >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
Lapin: Purim >> 2006-Not All Authority is
Bad >> >> >> Lance says Israel, many times
oppressed and, often by believers, has >> adopted the role of
oppressor. >> >> ROTFL >> That is Ludicrous on
the face of it. >> Where did you pick this whopper
up? >> >> Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! >>
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html >> Israel in RED , is a
democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, >> SURROUNDED by
22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her >> size,
60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab >>
propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone
believe >> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one
percent of the >> lands called Arab, be responsible for the
political dissatisfaction of >> 22 Arab countries? How can the 13
million Jews in the world (almost 5 >> million fewer than they were
in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of >> the 300 million Arabs,
who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims >>
worldwide? >> >> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH
too!!!!!!!! >> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for
disarmament of >> David before he meets Goliath! >>
LOL >> >> >> >> --- Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Lance chimes in:
Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd >>> 'rant'.
but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, >>>
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted
the >>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN
POWER. >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>>
Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: >>> Purim 2006-Not All
Authority is Bad >>> >>> >>> There is
little point in talking with someone who knows me better >>>
than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the
kind >>> of narrowness that I
disregard. >>> >>>
jd >>> >>> -------------- Original message
-------------- >>> From: "ShieldsFamily"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Jd, I never said
the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; >>> they will
be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more >>>
than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.
Your >>> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.
Izzy >>> >>> >>> >>> Romans
11 >>> Israel Is Not Cast Away >>> 1I say then, God
has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May >>> it never be!
For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, >>> of
the tribe of Benjamin. >>> >>> 2God (D)has not
rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do >>> you not
know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah,
how >>> he pleads with God against
Israel? >>> >>> 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR
PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN >>> YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM
LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." >>> >>> 4But
what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for >>>
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO
BAAL." >>> >>> 5In the same way then, there has also
come to be at the present >>> time (I)a remnant according to
God's gracious choice. >>> >>> 6But (J)if it is by
grace, it is no longer on the basis of >>> works, otherwise
grace is no longer grace. >>> >>> 7What then? What
(K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but >>> those who
were chosen obtained it, and the rest were
(L)hardened; >>> >>> 8just as it is
written, >>> "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF
STUPOR, >>> EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR
NOT, >>> DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." >>> >>>
9And David says, >>> "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A
TRAP, >>> AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO
THEM. >>> 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE
NOT, >>> AND BEND THEIR BACKS
FOREVER." >>> >>> 11(P)I say then, they did not
stumble so as to fall, did they? >>> (Q)May it never be! But by
their transgression (R)salvation has come >>> to the Gentiles,
to (S)make them jealous. >>> >>> 12Now if their
transgression is riches for the world and their >>> failure is
riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their >>>
(T)fulfillment be! >>> >>> 13But I am speaking to
you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as >>> (U)I am an apostle of
Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, >>> >>> 14if
somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen >>>
and (X)save some of them. >>> >>> 15For if their
rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, >>> what will
their acceptance be but (Z)life from the
dead? >>> >>> 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is
holy, the lump is also; and >>> if the root is holy, the
branches are too. >>> >>> 17But if some of the
(AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, >>> being a wild
olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker >>> with
them of the rich root of the olive tree, >>> >>>
18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are >>>
arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root,
but >>> the root supports you. >>> >>>
19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I >>>
might be grafted in." >>> >>> 20Quite right, they
were broken off for their unbelief, but you >>> (AF)stand by
your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but
fear; >>> >>> 21for if God did not spare the natural
branches, He will not >>> spare you,
either. >>> >>> 22Behold then the kindness and
severity of God; to those who >>> fell, severity, but to you,
God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue >>> in His kindness;
otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. >>> >>>
23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their
unbelief, >>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them
in again. >>> >>> 24For if you were cut off from
what is by nature a wild olive >>> tree, and were grafted
contrary to nature into a cultivated olive >>> tree, how much
more will these who are the natural branches be >>> grafted into
their own olive tree? >>> >>> 25For (AL)I do not
want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this >>> (AM)mystery--so
that you will not be (AN)wise in your own >>> estimation--that a
partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until >>> the
(AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; >>> >>>
26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, >>>
"(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, >>> HE WILL REMOVE
UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." >>> 27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH
THEM, >>> (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR
SINS." >>> >>> 28From the standpoint of the gospel
they are (AT)enemies for >>> your sake, but from the standpoint
of God's choice they are beloved >>> for (AU)the sake of the
fathers; >>> >>> 29for the gifts and the (AV)calling
of God (AW)are irrevocable. >>> >>> 30For just as
you once were disobedient to God, but now have >>> been shown
mercy because of their disobedience, >>> >>> 31so
these also now have been disobedient, that because of the >>>
mercy shown to you they also may now be shown
mercy. >>> >>> 32For (AX)God has shut up all in
disobedience so that He may >>> show mercy to
all. >>> >>> 33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both
of the (AZ)wisdom and >>> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable
are His judgments and >>> unfathomable His
ways! >>> >>> 34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF
THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS >>>
COUNSELOR? >>> >>> 35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO
HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK >>> TO HIM
AGAIN? >>> >>> 36For (BD)from Him and through Him
and to Him are all things >>> (BE)To Him be the glory forever.
Amen. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20
PM >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All
Authority is
Bad >>> >>> >>> >>> First ,
I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and >>> very
likely never will be. It is an American theological
invention. >>> a man named Darby being its first major
proponent, and Scolfield >>> along with Dallas Theological
Seminary being the back bone of its >>> critical
acclaim. >>> >>> >>> >>>
Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an >>>
unregenerated Floridian. >>> >>> I give no honor to
any race of people for the simple reason that >>> such was never
the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit >>> from me
for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, >>> came
into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role
in >>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth -
and left >>> the church almost to the man in the years following
the fall of their >>> holy city. There is more blasphemy on
Jewish sites than perhaps the >>> sites of any other world
religion. >>> >>> >>> >>>
That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside
the >>> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a
biblical >>>
conclusion. >>> >>> >>> >>>
And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact
that >>> I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements
of the >>> young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like
what it is >>> today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond
that which is >>> reasonable or even human, at times. The
surrounding Muslim/Arab >>> world's determination to destroy
Isreal without the possibility of >>> compromise is disgustingly
stupid to me Where, at one time, I had >>> some regard for the
Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think >>> it is violent
at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who >>> are not
Muslim. >>> >>> >>> >>> But
I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very >>>
materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ
in >>> terms of matters of faith and practice. Biblically
speaking, >>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is
not a sister >>> religion. Where some consider the Old Testament
as the history of >>> the Jewish people, I really view it as the
history of the Church. >>> God's chosen are to be found within
the body of
Christ. >>> >>> >>> >>>
jd >>> >>> >>> >>>
-------------- Original message -------------- >>> From:
"ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Jd,
there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you >>>
know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely
miss >>> a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or
the RCC who >>> are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus
and yet are >>> anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a
different gospel. The >>> Jews at least are honest about their
stance on Jesus. I have a >>> special place in my heart for Jews
because my Savior is a Jew, >>> because the Father says they are
His chosen people, and because one >>> day Jesus will again
restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesn't >>> that have any
meaning for you?
izzy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23
PM >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel >>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All
Authority is
Bad >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is
what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews >>> who
do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any
meaning >>> to you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you
very much. " >>> There in not one hateful word in that comment
-- not one. >>> >>> >>> >>>
You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just >>>
maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look
as >>> bad as possible and actually answer the above
question. >>> >>> >>> >>> I
am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny >>>
from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on
this >>> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up
to those who >>> deny the Lord you claim to
serve. >>> >>> I expect such conduct from
you. >>> >>> >>> >>>
jd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>
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