Thats funny coming from you.
Do you want to quote some more of my thoughts/beliefs again?
You had a running debate with yourself posting my thoughts on the
subject of carnal babes.
LOL
It is only arrogant/narrow when others do it to you?
LOL

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> There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
> than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
> of narrowness that I disregard.  
> 
> jd
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
> they will be become believers.  You say you don’t dislike Jews more
> than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
>  
> Romans 11
> Israel Is Not Cast Away
>  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it
> never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of
> the tribe of Benjamin. 
>  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you
> not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he
> pleads with God against Israel? 
>  3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR
> ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 
>  4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself
> SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 
>  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time
> (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
>  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
> otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
>  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
> those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
>  8just as it is written,
>          "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
>          EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
>          DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 
>  9And David says,
>          "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
>          AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
>     10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
>          AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 
>  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
> (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
>  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
> (T)fulfillment be! 
>  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I
> am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
>  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and
> (X)save some of them. 
>  15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what
> will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
>  16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if
> the root is holy, the branches are too. 
>  17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
> being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
> with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
>  18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant,
> remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root
> supports you. 
>  19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might
> be grafted in." 
>  20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you
> (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
>  21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare
> you, either. 
>  22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell,
> severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue in His
> kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. 
>  23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, will
> be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
>  24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree,
> and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how
> much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into
> their own olive tree? 
>  25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this
> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own
> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until
> the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 
>  26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
>          "(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
>          HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." 
>     27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
>          (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS." 
>  28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for your
> sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for
> (AU)the sake of the fathers; 
>  29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. 
>  30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been
> shown mercy because of their disobedience, 
>  31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy
> shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 
>  32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show
> mercy to all. 
>  33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom and
> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and
> unfathomable His ways! 
>  34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS
> COUNSELOR? 
>  35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO
> HIM AGAIN? 
>  36For (BD)from Him and through Him and to Him are all things (BE)To
> Him be the glory forever. Amen. 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 PM
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>  
> First ,   I am not a dispensationalist  --  never have been and very
> likely never will be.   It is an American theological invention.  a
> man named Darby being its first major proponent,  and Scolfield along
> with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical
> acclaim.
>  
> Secondly,  an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated
> Floridian.  
> I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such
> was never the intention of God  --  never.   Jews get no credit from
> me for the Messiah  --  they rejected Him then, killed him,  came
> into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in
> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and  left
> the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their
> holy city.   There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the
> sites of any other world religion.   
>  
> That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the
> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical
> conclusion.  
>  
> And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I
> do not hate the Jew.   Israel was created by agreements of the young
> United Nations.  Their new land was nothing like what it is today.  
> And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable
> or even human, at times.   The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's
> determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise
> is disgustingly stupid to me   Where, at one time,  I had some regard
> for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have none.   I think it is
> violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not
> Muslim.  
>  
> But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very materialistic
> people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters
> of faith and practice.     Biblically speaking,  Judaism reached full
> term in Jesus Christ.   It is not a sister religion.  Where some
> consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people,   I
> really view it as the history of the Church.    God's chosen are to
> be found within the body of Christ.  
>  
> jd
>  
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. 
> Soon there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a
> chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are
> true apostates.  They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs
> preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.  The Jews at
> least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a special place
> in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father
> says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again
> restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn’t that have any meaning
> for you? izzy
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>  
> Here is what I said, Linda.:  "Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
> do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to
> you?    I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.  " 
> There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  
>  
> You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
> you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
> possible and actually answer the above question.   
>  
> I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
> church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this
> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who
> deny the Lord you claim to serve.  
> I expect such conduct from you.  
>  
> jd
>  
>  
>  
>  


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