Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

[Lance Muir]

Is it just possible that we may be going out on a note of agreement, Judy? 'One Creator'! Amen! 'believe what is written as is' Amen once again as I most certainly do. (flee) darkness and/or presumption! That makes for three Amen's, Judy. Now what can we do to convince David Miller and Kevin about that which we (you and I) believe? ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 07:26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism But only One Creator and only one kind who believe what is written as is. Take your pick. I see no point in running after more darkness and/or presumption.   On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:02:56 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish. Put a million of 'em at the keyboards of computers and they'd come up with.....well...what they've already come up with. I rest my case your honor.  From: Judy Taylor   Why advocate teaching what you don't know JD?  As has already been noted "Only when we prove evolution do we need to concern ourselves with "harmonizing" evolutionism with theism.  Evidence that this level of proof has not been achieved includes the long list of scientists and others who have abandoned Darwinism because they became convinced that the scientific evidence DOES NOT support it.  So why would you want to warp young minds with useless information that is not proven?   judyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing   Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system   ....................   I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around.  That way , you would have to worry about consensus and no one will have the slightest idea what to believe.  but you and Kev will be happy.  CONSENSUS BE DAMNED.   KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !!  jd       From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?   WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???   From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So? There isn't a single view of the whole church that is agreed upon by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  --  there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church.     jd       -------------- Original message -------------- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John wrote: > The world in which we live would reject > any mention of God in the evolutionary process,  > IMO.   But  creationism in the schools?   Could > that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical > fundamentalist take-over of the culture? ROTFLOL.  I sure hope you were being facetious on purpose.   John wrote: > But to allow a mere  statement that suggests God > is somehow in control as the Creator(?)   If this > could be presented into the secular system of > education without it being coopted by the fundies  > --  go for it.   But I doubt that it can.  What a shame > that radical fundamentalism within Christiandom forces > the Body to dismiss a perfectly wonderful opportunity > to introduce the Creator to others.  In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools.  It is the liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this.   David Miller       Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.