Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:51:24 -0800

And who is going to present these competing versions of creation  --   the average Joe school teacher ??   Do you have any idea what an antagonist educator would do with such information?    Actually, this "creationism in the school" thingy is really starting to sound like a bad idea !! 
 
jd
 
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You remind me, Lance, of another show... Back to the Future, where Biff is hitting Marty McFly on the head, "Hello, Hello, Anybody Home?  Think, McFly, Think."
 
To further elucidate my point:  having numerous creationist models of origins is not a reason to exclude them from our educational system.  There are numerous models of evolution as well.  The premise by which you think you can rest your case is rather elusive.
 
David Miller
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

Homer Simpson, while attempting to steal a candy bar from a vending machine, got his arm stuck. He dragged that one over to another for a second attempt thus getting both arms securely locked in. Somehow, with his nose, he managed to dial 911 for assistance. The operator asked Homer 'Are each of your hands wrapped around candy bars?' Homer replied, 'your point being?'
 
David: You sound a little like Homer in your reply.
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Sent: March 23, 2006 10:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

Lance wrote:
> There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish.
 
The same can be said for evolutionists.  So what is your point? 
 
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism

There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish. Put a million of 'em at the keyboards of computers and they'd come up with.....well...what they've already come up with. I rest my case your honor. 
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Sent: March 23, 2006 06:44
Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Why advocate teaching what you don't know JD?  As has already been noted "Only when we prove
evolution do we need to concern ourselves with "harmonizing" evolutionism with theism.  Evidence that
this level of proof has not been achieved includes the long list of scientists and others who have abandoned
Darwinism because they became convinced that the scientific evidence DOES NOT support it.  So why
would you want to warp young minds with useless information that is not proven?   judyt
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I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing
 
Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system   ....................   I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around.  That way , you would have to worry about consensus and no one will have the slightest idea what to believe.  but you and Kev will be happy.  CONSENSUS BE DAMNED.   KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !!  jd
 
 
 
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many
and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no
measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?  
WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???
 

From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So?
There isn't a single view of the whole church that is agreed upon
by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt
 
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  -- 
there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church.  
 
jd
 
 
 
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John wrote:
> The world in which we live would reject
> any mention of God in the evolutionary process, 
> IMO.   But  creationism in the schools?   Could
> that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical
> fundamentalist take-over of the culture?
ROTFLOL.  I sure hope you were being facetious on purpose.
 
John wrote:
> But to allow a mere  statement that suggests God
> is somehow in control as the Creator(?)   If this
> could be presented into the secular system of
> education without it being coopted by the fundies 
> --  go for it.   But I doubt that it can.  What a shame
> that radical fundamentalism within Christiandom forces
> the Body to dismiss a perfectly wonderful opportunity
> to introduce the Creator to others. 
In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools.  It is the liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this.
 
David Miller
 
 
 

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