For guys that are always harping "well if you don't get it Let us just
move on!" it does seem a bit odd to say the least. Maybe it is they who
do not get it, they just want to move on.
Before you catch on.

Thought Police say "OK move along let's go...."

--- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funny how some guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy?
> iz
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
> 
>  
> 
> Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever
> understood what any of us
> 
> have been saying.  Not really.  I know I am not into Dominion
> Theology and I
> don't hear it coming from
> 
> Iz, Kevin, or David either.  So you are out there Lance, possibly in
> the
> next orbit to Gary.
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> 
> You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin & David) Stage direction:
> The word
> 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone
> that
> 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me
> into,
> Stanley...'
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
> 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
> 
>  
> 
> I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that
> has
> been written on TT.   
> 
>  
> 
> jd
> 
>  
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Kevin <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Deegan 
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
> 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zwingli_statue.jpg> Statue of
> Zwingli
> in Zürich
> 
>  
> 
> Bible N Sword!
> 
>  
> 
> Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed
> Catholic Taliban)
> 
> This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually
> have
> joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
> 
>  
> 
> "The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is
> literally
> a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally
> a means
> of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic
> of
> God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in
> Genesis
> 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all
> the
> hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment
> against
> murder.” Gary North
> 
>  
> 
> “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to
> take
> the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it
> unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is
> under
> the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family
> must be
> maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy)
> is a
> comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary
> New
> Geneva North
> 
>  
> 
> “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain
> exclusive
> control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to
> the
> eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks
> of the
> covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship,
> just as
> they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North
> written from New Geneva
> 
>  
> 
> ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other
> cheek is
> a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the
> Christian is
> impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
> 
> Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty
> and
> disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings
> come
> only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned
> God's tool
> of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)
> 
> There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile
> wife
> under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of
> Old
> Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary
> "we are
> the replacement" North
> 
>  
> 
> What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a
> strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North
> 
>  
> 
> " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the
> contrary, He
> was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to
> keep His
> word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North
> 
> “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between
> fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of
> the
> battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between
> the
> Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant
> groups takes
> seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”
> 
> ----- 
> 
> From: Kevin <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Deegan 
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
> 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> 
>  
> 
> Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 
> 
> Gary North king of y2k
> 
> 
> "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution
> (extermination), the "native Americans" did." Pope Gary North
> (comments
> added) 
> 
> Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should
> be to
> gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to
> submit...must
> be denied citizenship". 
> 
>  
> 
> Reformed Baptist? LOL 
> 
> Baptist Reconstruction? LOL
> 
> Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL
> 
> Baptist DominionISM? LOL
> 
> Baptist Pope ROTFL
> 
>  
> 
> RC Pope Calvin
> 
> Reformed Presbyterian
> 
> Bring in the kingdom Presbytery & JD
> 
> Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans, Reformed C's,
> Mormons, Reformed, JD & Lance!
> 
>  
> 
> Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists
> 
> http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm
> 
> see # 4 The priesthood of the believer & #5 right of soul liberty or
> religious liberty
> 
> # 7 The Separation of Church and State
> 
>  
> 
> Try to get your baseless assertions straight: 
> 
> Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
> 
> RJ Rushdoony Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
> 
> Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbytery
> 
>  
> 
> Kindy garten 101 - Who is who?
> 
> Baptist Roger Williams  Holding a Bible
> http://www.zbt.org/traditions/Roger_Williams_photo.htm
> 
>  
> 
> PROTESTant RC Zwingly - Holding Bible & SWORD
> 
> http://www.antipas.org/books/protesters/prot_images/zwingli.jpg
> 
>  
> 
> For all you kiddies TEST QUESTION who has the sword?
> 
>  
> 
> Even some Presbyterian RC's admit they are just RC 
> 
> http://reformedcatholicism.blogspot.com/
> 
>  
> 
> Dominion is the Sole Realm of Popes, Protestants & Potentates!!! 
> 
>  
> 
> Again all the ammo you have is Psycho assertionISM!
> 
> Name smearing and grossly misrepresenting peoples beliefs.
> 
> These REFORMED Catholics are just like their Papa
> 
> Baptists do not preach this baloney never have.
> 
> Popes Protestants and Potentates have blood on their hands.
> 
> Most times it was the blood of Baptists
> 
> You defame their pure blood, shed by murderous RC's
> 
> Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> RJ Rushdooney
> 
> http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/fundienazis/royal_race.htm
> 
> The Royal Race of the Redeemed?
> 
> 
> 
> Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? Have you finally come out of hiding
> after
> the Y2K fiasco? I do believe that were we to remove the hoods from
> some on
> TT we would see that which underlies the hatred that you spread
> throughout
> the mid-east and, elsewhere.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Kevin <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Deegan 
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: March 23, 2006 07:50
> 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> 
>  
> 
> AGAIN you show your Short Comprehension
> 
> I am NOT a REFORMED CATHOLIC.
> 
> wrong slot Lance, better take it to your friends for a consensus
> 
>  
> 
> What do you know of RJR?
> 
> Not as much as you think, I suppose.
> 
> He is NOT a Fundamentalist
> 
> Like Papa like son, bring out the stake....
> 
> 
> 
> Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Spoken like a true studen of RJR.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Kevin <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Deegan 
> 
> To: [email protected] 
> 
> Sent: March 22, 2006 21:05
> 
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
> 
>  
> 
> Let's have them Teach Dominion Theology in school ; )
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems
> and you
> are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every
> major
> school system   ....................   I am sure we can find enough
> fundy
> ideas to go around.  That way , you would have to worry about
> consensus and
> no one will have the slightest idea what to believe.  but you and Kev
> will
> be happy.  CONSENSUS BE DAMNED.   KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE
> YOU FREE
> !!
> 
>  
> 
> jd
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many
> 
> and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is
> no
> 
> measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?   
> 
> WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???
> 
>  
> 
> 
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> So?
> 
> There isn't a single view of the whole church that is agreed upon
> 
> by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  --  
> 
> there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the
> whole
> church.   
> 
>  
> 
> jd
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> > The world in which we live would reject 
> 
> > any mention of God in the evolutionary process,  
> 
> > IMO.   But  creationism in the schools?   Could 
> 
> > that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical 
> 
> > fundamentalist take-over of the culture? 
> 
> ROTFLOL.  I sure hope you were being facetious on purpose.
> 
>  
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> > But to allow a mere  statement that suggests God 
> 
> > is somehow in control as the Creator(?)   If this 
> 
> > could be presented into the secular system of 
> 
> > education without it being coopted by the fundies  
> 
> > --  go for it.   But I doubt that it can.  What a shame 
> 
> > that radical fundamentalism within Christiandom forces 
> 
> > the Body to dismiss a perfectly wonderful opportunity 
> 
> > to introduce the Creator to others.  
> 
> In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the
> acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools.  It is the
> liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing
> this.
> 
>  
> 
> David Miller
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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> 
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